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im kinda sick of most of this argument but ill say one more thing before i slip off into the sunset suffering from monomania

every single person ive met from over seas that moves to australia has done so because they got frustrated and excluded by the levels of definition in their society and were excited by the do it your own way freedom we have.

unfortunately, the new world isnt as new anymore and we have our own "defined" culture ever growing in our inner city glass bubbles, all desperate to make our society more mature, more "european".

it not the immigrants who want it - nearly every one of them has *left* a society full of itself and its perfect rules and is glad they did so.

[Nibelung]

No heavy earths around. That is all.

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[Sparky]

Past experience is as good a heuristic as you're likely to find.

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[YMix]

I would argue that the biggest mistake of the communist movement was its willingness, even eagerness, to enforce the Revolution upon people who didn't particularly want it. It gave a license to every power-hungry psychopath to kill wantonly while clutching the red flag.

I also think that the label of "communist" and "socialist" is used to describe far too many people and movements. Reminds me of Umberto Eco's discussion of the heretical movements in The Name of the Rose.

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