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Question for Europeans (or anyone with an opinion . .)

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Question for Europeans (or anyone with an opinion . .)

Postby Marcus » Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:32 pm

Relative to a discussion about resource management, currently taking place on an Alaska forum, it's been asserted that:

"Europe . . set the stage for allowing the United States to do something different. Our National Park system, Refuges, Environmental laws, and Wilderness Areas all speak to seeing what western Europe lost - the sense of wild is not in many European countries."

Is this true, and does it matter?

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Re: Question for Europeans (or anyone with extensive knowled

Postby YMix » Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:12 pm

It's probably true for Western Europe. It's certainly not true for Central and Eastern Europe.
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Re: Question for Europeans (or anyone with extensive knowled

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Re: Question for Europeans (or anyone with an opinion . .)

Postby Sparky » Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:33 pm

It really depends where you go:
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Re: Question for Europeans (or anyone with an opinion . .)

Postby Torchwood » Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:52 pm

Depends where you go, it's all a matter of population density. By global standards even the eastern US is fairly uncrowded: compare 300 million people in 3 million sq. miles with 500 million in the EU onabout 1 million sq.m. But it's uneven, the really crowded bits are from NW England in a strip down to Italy, as Sparky's map shows.

Even in Western Europe , bits of central France and Spain are uncrowded - and in otherwise crowded Britain, the western Highlands of Scotland are bleak and empty, the local clansmen having been packed off to Canada centuries ago (where, quite frankly, they were better off). As for northern Scandinavia and Russia...

The big difference is the sense of scale. I suppose Europe must strike some Americans as a cramped Toytown, while bits of the US give me agoraphobia.
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Re: Question for Europeans (or anyone with an opinion . .)

Postby Mr. Perfect » Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:16 pm

As per resource management, the US is in a wild game boom period, we have more wild game by most tallies than since the 20's or 30's, thanks to a strong hunting industry. And I said industry. The "all the animals are going extinct" crowd have as many problems right now as the MMGW and population boom people.

I know there are some destination hunts in Europe, but they are mostly in Spain, in the mountains.

I can hunt in a 3 mile radius from here and never have to go anywhere else.

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Re: Question for Europeans (or anyone with an opinion . .)

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Re: Question for Europeans (or anyone with extensive knowled

Postby YMix » Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:58 am

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Re: Question for Europeans (or anyone with an opinion . .)

Postby Marcus » Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:08 pm

Thanks, guys, that all helps.
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Re: Question for Europeans (or anyone with an opinion . .)

Postby rednblacklumberjack » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:01 am

Only Europeans I know that hunt originate from Poland and France. Oh and Germany. But I met them hunting over here in the US.

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