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Re: Swap Electoral College for Popular Vote

Postby Tinker » Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:04 am

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Re: Swap Electoral College for Popular Vote

Postby Mr. Perfect » Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:07 am

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Re: Swap Electoral College for Popular Vote

Postby Colonel Sun » Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:35 pm

Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
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Re: Swap Electoral College for Popular Vote

Postby Tinker » Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:52 pm

I wonder really why people think it is necessary for the votes of people in Wyoming to be worth the value of three votes in New York, California or Texas.

Makes no sense really.

It's not like the choice is between a small town Republican and a big city Democrat. It's between two big city career politicians always.
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Re: Swap Electoral College for Popular Vote

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Re: Swap Electoral College for Popular Vote

Postby Tinker » Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:56 am

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Re: Swap Electoral College for Popular Vote

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Re: Swap Electoral College for Popular Vote

Postby Tinker » Sun Oct 30, 2011 3:01 pm

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Re: Swap Electoral College for Popular Vote

Postby Tinker » Sun Oct 30, 2011 3:08 pm

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Re: Swap Electoral College for Popular Vote

Postby Tinker » Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:03 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U. ... population

Check it out, the top 10 most populous states all dominated by their big cities overshadowing the votes of the rural voters in those states.
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Re: Swap Electoral College for Popular Vote

Postby Demon of Undoing » Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:34 pm

It's pretty simple. Rural to urban demographic trends are pretty solid. Votes happen accordingly. The Rs have generally been dominant and likely will be in party warfare for the next ten years. That stuff depends on having a better machine. The republicans run machines better.

However, the dems can completely nosedive as a machine and there will still be a majority well to the left of the republicans. Some think that means the whole board will still have shifted to the right, therefore " winning " the issue for the right. But what if 60% solidly and continuously back " moderate right" policies that are still anathema to the continuingly diminished traditionalist/ rural core?
It will still look quite a lot like a commie takeover when the Log House republicans and the South Park conservatives and the granola conservatives are dominant.

And they will be.
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Re: Swap Electoral College for Popular Vote

Postby Tinker » Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:40 pm

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Re: Swap Electoral College for Popular Vote

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Re: Swap Electoral College for Popular Vote

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Re: Swap Electoral College for Popular Vote

Postby monster_gardener » Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:55 pm

For the love of G_d, may I consider I may be mistaken
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Re: Swap Electoral College for Popular Vote

Postby Tinker » Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:25 pm

Yes they can, but you still get electoral votes based on the Senate, how should those be apportioned?
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Re: Swap Electoral College for Popular Vote

Postby Mr. Perfect » Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:55 pm

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Re: Swap Electoral College for Popular Vote

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Re: Swap Electoral College for Popular Vote

Postby Mr. Perfect » Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:08 pm

;)

It'll be funny if that catches on.
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Re: Swap Electoral College for Popular Vote

Postby crashtech » Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:53 pm

I do get a bit passionate about issues that I perceive will weaken my state and strengthen the federal government.

I'm not persuaded that dissolving the Electoral College will not result in that, nor am I convinced the erosion of state power will end there.
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Re: Swap Electoral College for Popular Vote

Postby Mr. Perfect » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:49 pm

The EC is not going anywhere. The goal is to get leftists to spend as much time, energy and money of fruitless and impossible causes so they don't do any real damage somewhere else. The EC is one of those causes.
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Re: Swap Electoral College for Popular Vote

Postby AzariLoveIran » Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:09 pm

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Changes necessary to put our beloved America on the right track for new century, necessitate wide-ranging constitutional changes

The crooks benefiting from present situation, will not let it happen

meaning

you stuck


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Re: Swap Electoral College for Popular Vote

Postby Mr. Perfect » Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:48 pm

Azari, we been using EC, hundreds of years, long before Tribe or Woodrow Wilson got ahold of things. Gonna be ok.

Working on structural changes (John Boner Supercomittee) as we speak. Gonna be fine.

Relax. :P
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Re: Swap Electoral College for Popular Vote

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Re: Swap Electoral College for Popular Vote

Postby Mr. Perfect » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:13 pm

Well it's normally leftists who bring it up, and when they do I try to help them get it off the ground. :P So I play the cards as they come out.
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