"Impeachable Offense"

[Demon of Undoing]

[Colonel Sun]

I've often argued, more precisely speculated, that if the US economy had been doing very well and that there had not been a Vietnam War, then former POTUS Nixon would not have been threatened with impeachment.

[skyhook77sfg]

maybe even before ww2 DEMON

some of fdr's acts were uhhh.... extra-constitutional

[Mattmovies]

This got me thinking, too. I don't think that if Obama raises the debt ceiling he'll be impeached, but if the word impeach keeps coming up and reaches a small chant, is there a chance Obama might get impeached like Clinton in his second term?

I still feel that anyone that wants to be president right now probably should put on riot gear everywhere they go. This is not a fun time for the office. My guess is that the 2013-2016 season is going to be ugly. The only thing I can guess a returning or new president to hope for is the storm to be over before 2016 so they can claim themselves effective because things got better on their watch.

[Azrael]

[Azrael]

[Mr. Perfect]

[Tinker]

If the debt veiling itself is unconstitutional, the point seems moot.

[skyhook77sfg]

argumentum ad ignorantiam defined:

""Err, there is no evidence that the Watergate break in was ordered by Nixon."


Argument from ignorance, also known as argumentum ad ignorantiam or "appeal to ignorance", is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not been proven false (or vice versa). This represents a type of false dichotomy in that it excludes a third option, which is that there is insufficient investigation and therefore insufficient information to satisfactorily prove the proposition to be either true or false. Nor does it allow the admission that the choices may in fact not be two (true or false), but may be as many as four, (1) true, (2) false, (3) unknown between true or false, and (4) being unknowable (among the first three).[1] In debates, appeals to ignorance are sometimes used to shift the burden of proof.

Argument from ignorance may be used as a rationalization by a person who realizes that he has no reason for holding the belief that he does.



there is also no proof der fuehrer ordered the holocaust

or Georgia's Josef Besarionis dze Jughashvili ordered the kulak extinction

or Mighty Mao ordered 20,000,000 deaths.


But objective observers recall Tricky Dick's diktat:


"When the President does it, that means it is not illegal."

Richard M. Nixon

May 20, 1977.

[Mr. Perfect]

Argument from truth:

There is no evidence that R Nixon ordered the Watergate break in. Just telling the truth.

[skyhook77sfg]

whatever ....

cognitive disonance is uncomfortable

because it forces a choice......

accept and integrate data....

or totally suppress it.

[Mr. Perfect]

That's nice. In the meantime, there is no evidence that R Nixon ordered the break in. Just telling the truth. The truth will set you free.

[skyhook77sfg]

nixon's most intimate appointee was john ehrlichman

john ehrlichman ran the plumbers

just like eichman ran the holocaust

so nixon was to watergate

what hitler was to auschwitz


tricky dick didnt have the balls to face the music of a trial
and slunk away in total disgrace flashing phony smiles and v signs....


ever wonder why?

[Colonel Sun]

[Mr. Perfect]

[skyhook77sfg]

also negative

cointelpro

giving cheney and rumsfeld to america



and with a little help from kissinger



secret bombing of cambodia

allende coup/murder ....pinochet crimes

indonesian massacres

[skyhook77sfg]

[Mr. Perfect]

The truth is that there is no evidence that Nixon ordered the break in. I am telling the truth, I am on the side of the truth, and it appears that you cannot handle the truth.

[skyhook77sfg]

there is evidence he tried like hell to raise money to pay off the plumbers.

there is evidence john ehrlichman was his right hand man.

there is evidence ehrlichman ran the plumbers

there is evidence Nixon tried to run an imperial presidency

and you just seek refuge in more argumentum ad ignorantiam


sorry to see an otherwise intelligent fellow succumb to the demands of party lines.

[AzariLoveIran]

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A truth finding tribunal in Tehran

Will clarify everything

at least Robert (McNamara) repented


.

[skyhook77sfg]

but did you tell them to add Yoo and Addington to the indicted?

cant leave out the lawyer whores who subverted the law...


and will the republican guards come to US for extraordinary rendition of Cheney Rumsfeld?

you could sell tickets.

make some money.

have some fun.


keep us posted.

[Mr. Perfect]

[skyhook77sfg]

done by his crew on his watch for his benefit....

and who he paid off with illicit money he raised...

enough for most

never for a few


you are certainly entitled to avoid the obvious

the trial he couldnt handle would have been interesting

should have happened instead of blanket pardon by his handpicked successor

might even have sent him to soledad instead of the san clemente beach front mansion

btw

who bought that for him?

wasnt his best buddy bebe the mafia confidant rebozo was it?

or was it that pepsico guy ?

kendall?

the one who had Nixon nullify the election in chile///

yep long way to san clemente from the wife's cloth coat days eh?



the one who insisted Poland was not captive behind the iron curtain

[Mr. Perfect]

[skyhook77sfg]

thats about all ford knew.

except a promised blanket pardon for his becoming pres was a good deal.

he sure didnt know how to ski the deep powder in the back bowls at Vail

but he and his old lady sure could down the schnapps at Peppi Gramshammer's place

nice fellow gerry... but like lyndon said about playing football w/o a helmet.....

now that was a not nice fellow....