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Re: The Coporate State Wins Again

Postby Colonel Sun » Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:42 pm

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Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
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Re: The Coporate State Wins Again

Postby Colonel Sun » Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:43 pm

Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
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1. You're now several kilometres away; and

2. You've got their shoes.
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Re: The Coporate State Wins Again

Postby Tinker » Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:58 pm

The canary didn't die because this mine is dangerous, it died because it's lazy and wasn't raised with a proper work ethic.
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Re: The Coporate State Wins Again

Postby Mr. Perfect » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:43 am

The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests Patrick Henry

John Boner has brought change to America
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Re: The Coporate State Wins Again

Postby skyhook77sfg » Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:13 pm

CORPORATE PRIORITY IS GAMING THE GAME




General Electric is one of America’s oldest corporations. It fuels the economy with innovation, with jobs and even with wind. But it turns out, not with taxes.
A New York Times investigation found that in 2010 GE reported worldwide profits of $14.2 billion, $5.1 billion of which came from its operations in the United States.
But GE claimed a tax benefit of $3.2 billion dollars.
According to GE’s website, the company pays what it owes under the law… and GE is right.
Thanks to heavy lobbying, legislation passed allowing companies to keep much of their profits overseas, where tax rates are lower.
And it’s not alone. Google also benefits from laws passed in Washington in which it keeps its money here in Ireland, near its Dublin Corporate office.
While the corporate tax rate in the U.S. is 35 percent, it’s just 12.5 percent in Ireland. From there, Google sends profits to its Bermuda subsidiary – a mailing address- where the tax rate is 0 percent. It’s a practice Bloomberg news reporter Jesse Drucker said is common.
“The question is does it make sense for a company that created intellectual property here in the US that has the majority of its employees in the US, is it sound tax policy to have the bulk of its profits overseas attributed to a mail box in Bermuda,” Drucker commented.
It’s a question many are asking, especially in the midst of the economic crisis.
Economists estimate the U.S. is losing between $60 and $90 billion in tax revenue.Still, corporations say the tax rate in the US should be lowered.
“The argument is that it will enable them to spend more money in the economy but US companies are already sitting on a record pile of cash, almost 2 trillion dollars according to the Federal Reserve.”
Jordan Estevao, Bank Accountability Campaign Director with National People’s Action , said lawmakers wrangling over the budgetare missing the point – that it’s not a budget crisis but a revenue crisis.
“The fact of the matter is, governments on a state and federal are not raising enough revenue,” Estevao said.
Members of his organization protests against what they see as corporate greed.
“Bank of America in 2010 actually got a tax refund of 666 million dollars,” Estevao pointed out. “That’s on top of their 2009 refund of 3.5 billion dollars.”
Don’t forget Bank of America was given billions in taxpayer dollars in the bailout.
Corporations are now campaigning for a tax holiday like the one in 2004.
It allowed corporations to bring back profits from abroad, at a tax rate of only 5.25 percent, resulting in a $265 billion cash injection.It was called the American Jobs Creation Act.
“One of the most interesting examples coming out of that tax holiday was Hewlett P, which brought home $14.5 billion under the holiday.That same year it announced it was laying off 14,000 people,” Drucker said.
Perhaps this was because most of the money was used to buy back shares of its company.
“It’s not creating jobs,” said Estevao. “Helping these guys out is not creating jobs.It’s just lining their pockets.”
As popular as it to speak begrudgingly of the government, many people forget that the government provides services that people use and enjoy on a daily basis, whether they realize it or not, things like road repair, firefighters and the sewer system.
They are everyday services increasingly funded by those making the least, while companies making the most use the system to get around it.
Nomi Prins, a senior fellow at Demos and the author of "It Takes a Pillage" explained major businesses game the entire US tax system to their benefit, while average Americans foot the bill.
Many in Washington argue lower tax rates would spur job growth and push the businesses to hire more people and follow the rules without loopholes. Prins called this a myth.
“Their percentage relative to anyone else is so low,” she said, explaining that they already pay very little. “There is too much of a gap in terms of what comes in.”
Almost 80 percent of taxes which come in come from individuals, not companies, she explained. Wall Street has the power, but pays less into the bucket – and Wall Street is responsible for the crisis, and managed to get bailed out by the government, earn profits and still avoid taxes.
Corporations on Wall Street win, while consumers on Main Street and America’s middle class lose out.
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Re: The Coporate State Wins Again

Postby YMix » Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:40 pm

Humanity ought to be the first order of interest for humans.
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Re: The Coporate State Wins Again

Postby skyhook77sfg » Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:47 pm

CORPORATE STATISTS ON A ROLL


Supreme Court sides with utilities

A coalition of states and environmentalists can’t sue power plants over their greenhouse gas emissions.


SCOTUS rules out Wal-Mart suit

As many as 1.6 million women could have become part of the class-action suit against the company.
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Re: The Coporate State Wins Again

Postby monster_gardener » Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:33 pm

For the love of G_d, may I consider I may be mistaken
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Re: The Coporate State Wins Again

Postby skyhook77sfg » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:17 am

MONSTER

another gem fit for The Journal of Parasitology...


Documents obtained by government watchdog group Judicial Watch reveal that in an October 13, 2008, meeting with executives from 9 major American banks, Paulson told bankers that they would be forced to accept government bailout money, whether they wanted it or not.

One of the documents, a talking points memo, gave bankers the ultimatum: "If a capital infusion is not appealing, you should be aware that your (FDIC) regulator will require it in any circumstance." The logic was that if everybody were forced to accept the money, then doing so would give cover to those banks who needed the money vs. those that didn't and the market wouldn't go after the banks who only took the money (thus thinking they were most vulnerable).


Section 8 of Paulson’s original plan stated: "Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency."
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Re: The Coporate State Wins Again

Postby Tinker » Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:21 pm

The canary didn't die because this mine is dangerous, it died because it's lazy and wasn't raised with a proper work ethic.
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Re: The Coporate State Wins Again

Postby monster_gardener » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:19 am

For the love of G_d, may I consider I may be mistaken
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Re: The Coporate State Wins Again

Postby skyhook77sfg » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:10 am

STILL ON A ROLL AT CORPORATE SUBSIDIARY SCOTUS inc.

another get out of jail card for Corporate Crooks in another 5-4 decision yesterday...

Janus Capitol's fund advisor may not be sued for intentionally making misleading statements to prospective clients.

This once upon a time was widely known as securities fraud ...

but not anymore.
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Re: The Coporate State Wins Again

Postby monster_gardener » Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:52 pm

For the love of G_d, may I consider I may be mistaken
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Re: The Coporate State Wins Again

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Re: The Coporate State Wins Again

Postby Colonel Sun » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:56 pm

Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
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1. You're now several kilometres away; and

2. You've got their shoes.
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Re: The Coporate State Wins Again

Postby Tinker » Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:20 pm

Glad we have those tough on crime socialists on the right who are so concerned about giving people free room and board and health care so that they can satisfy their entitlement to feel 'safe' from people who live in completely different neighborhoods than they do.

Tough on crime! Wooo!
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Re: The Coporate State Wins Again

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Re: The Coporate State Wins Again

Postby Demon of Undoing » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:15 pm

Don't know what it is, but I'm agin'it.
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Re: The Coporate State Wins Again

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Re: The Coporate State Wins Again

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Re: The Coporate State Wins Again

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Re: The Coporate State Wins Again

Postby Tinker » Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:55 am

The canary didn't die because this mine is dangerous, it died because it's lazy and wasn't raised with a proper work ethic.
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Re: The Coporate State Wins Again

Postby Demon of Undoing » Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:55 am

At the root of it is biggerbetterfastermore, linear thinking that the only way to go is up. It works for primitives, but not now. There has to be a conscious choice for less. That is the malfunction, being unwilling to live with/on/for less. That is the problem in us.

When the family that can buy a 2k sq ft house chooses to have two kids sleep to a room and buy a 1200 sq ft house, because they can simply get by with less, that will be the beginning. People making choices that may hurt because they know it is the right thing to do in a macro sense, that is the ticket. And it's almost to a man impossible.
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Re: The Coporate State Wins Again

Postby noddy » Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:02 am

thats a good part of it, but im finding i tend to agree with spengler a bit (spagehtti forbid) that its also the other existential beast - fear of risk and death.

so much is driven by a complete denial of it, a willful drive to eliminate it at all costs - it is the overriding principle of our age and i know so many people who proudly tell me we are the first generation thats not going to die, enough rules and enough science funding and we will have utopia... soon.
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Re: The Coporate State Wins Again

Postby Demon of Undoing » Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:10 am

Don't know what it is, but I'm agin'it.
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