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The Repudiation of Technology

Predictions on things that you think will be invented by someone with more technical knowledge than you, or more impetus than you, or perhaps that one day you will invent. This is the place for speculation about the future.

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Re: The Repudiation of Technology

Postby noddy » Mon May 30, 2011 5:01 am

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Re: The Repudiation of Technology

Postby Tinker » Mon May 30, 2011 1:25 pm

The canary didn't die because this mine is dangerous, it died because it's lazy and wasn't raised with a proper work ethic.
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Re: The Repudiation of Technology

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Re: The Repudiation of Technology

Postby Demon of Undoing » Mon May 30, 2011 6:33 pm

No , I mean demand less. Demand less cars , demand lower standards of living , demand less of the things you do demand. May be semantic , but this points to the conscious repudiation of the biggerbetterfastermore infection.

And the people printing off SMGs won't be doing with less by choice , they will garner whatever resources they have to get those printers , even if their neighbors must starve. History shows that people beat plows into swords , not the other way around. Unless they make a conscious choice to demand less , they will demand more. The planet simply will not bear six billion Americans.
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Re: The Repudiation of Technology

Postby CgDs » Mon May 30, 2011 6:47 pm

I don't disagree, I just get hung on semantics sometimes. Maybe it's the old econ classes coming back, but essentially demand == "marketplace want" (in isolation from supply) so "marketplace NOT want" just kinda doesn't compute for me. Educated beyond my intelligence, doubtless.

I'm not sure, outside of statistically insignificant isolated individuals / groups, that one can point to anywhere in history where less == more is a sustainable credo. (Almost implies a lack of competition amongst groups.) Now, for much of history, we simply didn't have the tech to supply much of "marketplace want," so studied austerity might be mistaken for noble-mindedly eschewing of conspicuous consumption. But repudiation of biggerbetterfastermore is somewhat akin to my mind of repudiating the invisible hand of the market. Might be theoretically possible, but largely unprecedented. I'm afraid I must place my bet with Murphy on this one. ;)
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Re: The Repudiation of Technology

Postby noddy » Tue May 31, 2011 1:43 am

giving up biggerbetterfastermore ..buahahahha.. tell my missus we dont need a better more comfortable house whydontya... id be stoked if someone could cause then i could work a truckload less.

nope, we will run out, then make do (and biggerbetterfastermore) with the replacement techs.
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Re: The Repudiation of Technology

Postby Demon of Undoing » Tue May 31, 2011 9:24 pm

I agree. That's why , whatever they may learn about careers and societies and education and whatnot , my kids will know how to make fire without matches. Again , the world will not bear six billion Americans. We have infected the planet with the most pernicious envy ever known to man. The center will not hold.
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Re: The Repudiation of Technology

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Re: The Repudiation of Technology

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Re: The Repudiation of Technology

Postby Torchwood » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:23 pm

Buddhist economics:
Happiness = Wealth/Desire
Pessimism is the soft option.
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Re: The Repudiation of Technology

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Re: The Repudiation of Technology

Postby Hapax Legomenon » Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:20 am

You guys are all capable, yet none of you could be homeless. Imagine that. Some of us aren't that far from it, and it is nothing more than parental largesse that keeps us off the streets. I may be the resident bum amongst the Tinker forum, but I certainly won't be the last, as long as this forum attracts the basis of the Spengler forum.
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Re: The Repudiation of Technology

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Re: The Repudiation of Technology

Postby crashtech » Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:53 pm

Suffering = Desire/Wealth
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