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Black Hawk Down, does it matter?

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Re: Black Hawk Down, does it matter?

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Re: Black Hawk Down, does it matter?

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Re: Black Hawk Down, does it matter?

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Re: Black Hawk Down, does it matter?

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Re: Black Hawk Down, does it matter?

Postby Captain Murphy » Thu May 12, 2011 12:17 am

Do you want the moustache on or off?
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Re: Black Hawk Down, does it matter?

Postby Mr. Perfect » Thu May 12, 2011 1:25 am

The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests Patrick Henry

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Re: Black Hawk Down, does it matter?

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Re: Black Hawk Down, does it matter?

Postby Demon of Undoing » Thu May 12, 2011 3:33 am

Sorta related.

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Re: Black Hawk Down, does it matter?

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Re: Black Hawk Down, does it matter?

Postby noddy » Thu May 12, 2011 3:44 am

60 year old tech atom bombs and 100's of years old tech like daisycutters still blow things up quite well.
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Re: Black Hawk Down, does it matter?

Postby Mr. Perfect » Thu May 12, 2011 3:55 am

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Re: Black Hawk Down, does it matter?

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Re: Black Hawk Down, does it matter?

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Re: Black Hawk Down, does it matter?

Postby Najar » Thu May 12, 2011 8:53 pm

Chinese have advantages too ..

The dont have bueracracies that are put it place when an organization matures. Engineers at Boeing and Lockheed need to go thru hoops (design reviews done by committees , finance approval, ROI justifications etc.. etc..) to move a rivet by one hundreth of an inch.

Their programs are funded by government - where strategic advantages can override any poor ROI.

Our best brains goto wallstreet - theirs study science & engineering.

I wont be surprised if China starts building their own civilian aircrafts! I have seem regional jets made in Brazil serve reliably for long periods.
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Re: Black Hawk Down, does it matter?

Postby Tinker » Thu May 12, 2011 9:00 pm

The canary didn't die because this mine is dangerous, it died because it's lazy and wasn't raised with a proper work ethic.
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Re: Black Hawk Down, does it matter?

Postby Azrael » Thu May 12, 2011 9:09 pm

Perhaps that was a bad example, Ibrahim.

Can you think of a world-class brand from China? China Mobile comes up in some surveys, but it is a state-owned service firm that only operates in China.

Where is their Intel, their Samsung, their Toyota, their Nokia, their Siemens? China doesn't produce anything world-class.
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Re: Black Hawk Down, does it matter?

Postby Captain Murphy » Thu May 12, 2011 9:49 pm

Huawei is a world class brand that comes to mind.
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Re: Black Hawk Down, does it matter?

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Re: Black Hawk Down, does it matter?

Postby Mr. Perfect » Thu May 12, 2011 11:29 pm

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Re: Black Hawk Down, does it matter?

Postby Tinker » Fri May 13, 2011 2:44 am

The canary didn't die because this mine is dangerous, it died because it's lazy and wasn't raised with a proper work ethic.
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Re: Black Hawk Down, does it matter?

Postby Mr. Perfect » Fri May 13, 2011 3:37 am

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Re: Black Hawk Down, does it matter?

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Re: Black Hawk Down, does it matter?

Postby noddy » Fri May 13, 2011 4:00 am

HTC is taiwanese .. have to really start splitting hairs to say they are much different than the chinese in terms of ability to innovate in the tech world.

the only historical reason for difference is the government posture towards such things, and that reason is gone now that the mainland has embraced technology.

keep dreaming of a world where asia needs the west for intellectuals, it is just a dream - the correction is already happening but most western goverments and many individuals are comforting themselves with tedious cliches from the maoist era - they cant innovate, they need us for universities and services... sigh.
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Re: Black Hawk Down, does it matter?

Postby Azrael » Fri May 13, 2011 4:11 am

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Re: Black Hawk Down, does it matter?

Postby Mr. Perfect » Fri May 13, 2011 4:15 am

Go get 'em Az. I can't remember the last time I agreed with you about anything.
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