UN/US will go ahead and kill some brown people

[Mr. Perfect]

Cinc, skyhook, I beg of you, as two thinking adult human beings who have experienced accountability in the mortal sphere,

HOW IN THE HELL CAN YOU TRUST THE UN TO PULL OFF SOMETHING LIKE THIS?

[skyhook77sfg]

TRUST THE UN ?

nobody said that.

we're on a wing and prayer here.
wishing all those now checking and rechecking their gear,
writing a last note to loved ones just in case
whether french, scottish, welsh, english or arab
a safe return home after their missions
knowing some well may not
and hoping none lost life or limb
in vain but for what was right...

[noddy]

if the anglos are involved then the australians are involved and i know i trust both of their sas to get something done.

i actually trust the french special forces too,

perhaps not the will of any of our governments so much... but if the best we can hope for is killing gakaffi, then they shouldnt need too long.\

besides the french/italian oil contracts.. the cynic in me is suspicious of the lack of influence the euros have in africa in general, now that the chinese have opened the wallets and taken over that role in the southern half.

[CgDs]

But what are we/they actually trying to do?

On day or week one, this might have helped get rid of Dear Colonel.

Now?

The ostensible objective merely prolongs a bloody war, and there will still be a purge of the losers.

Granted, Dear Colonel richly deserves to be purged. And I really do feel bad for the rebels who exhibited the courage to stand up to the Dear Colonel and his goons. And I really do feel bad that some of the rebels were naive enough to think that the rest of the world would act decisively in their favor.

But isn't taking out the air defenses (partially crippling one side) essentially stalemating the conflict into prolonged bloodletting with reprisals and purges deferred, not averted?

[noddy]

details us mushrooms are unlikely to know... but if the air blockade/support keeps him in the country, then all thats needed is enough time for the special forces to weed him out.

granted it took a while in iraq - but i get some sense the conditions arent exactly the same, ..he possibly has less places to hide with more local people against him.

not heading to an outcome of roses, just an outcome of less killing of innocents by the empowered regime, so in a twisted way, a more real conflict that perhaps leaves conditions for a better future.. the american civil war wasnt all bad, it did grow you up a bit about squabbling for a while .. maybe they are in a position to react likewise ?

the detail all us outsiders cant really comment on is the true percentage of loyalists verus rebels...

[CgDs]

[noddy]

yes, all of that seems true aswell.. it truly does appear that killing the odious one is the only clear upside

if the rebels and the loyalists are equally matched then it will go the bad way you describe, if the rebels outnumber the loyalists it will be a correction for the better... if nothing happened then its just slaughtering rebels... atleast in theory its possible it might end up with another upside.

[Mr. Perfect]

[Mr. Perfect]

Remember, substantial US assets struggled to get Saddam, and still have not got Bin Laden.

A few dozen Frenchie airplanes? What happens when they start hitting the aspirin factories?

Is this being discussed seriously by adults?

[noddy]

if all it is is no fly zones, you are correct, i just doubt thats all it is - no fly zones after the fact that the flying slaughter is finished seems extremely absurd even by UN absurdity standards..... still trying to chase up different news sources myself, have been pondering out loud more than i normally would.

[Mr. Perfect]

Among the many negative outcomes is Qboy actually winning/successfully holding out, and strutting through the Arab world as the sole vanquisher of the West. Won't that be great.

[noddy]

[Endovelico]

[Alexis]

[Alexis]

[Sparky]

[Caskhades]

[Caskhades]

[skyhook77sfg]

predictions of cease fire prove accurate.

at least the crazy qadaffis now declare cease fire

in their efforts to kill more of mr p's beloved brown people.

success no 1 already

price of oil falling to chagrin of wall st speculator parasites.

success no 2..

pretty damn good for some overpaid

global administrator huffing on

david rockefeller upper east side real estate.

kudos to the magyar khazar francophone

for neutering his former paymaster.

kudos to the commie capitalists in the forbidden city

and the former marshes of muscovy

for changing history by doing nothing

and of course the fearless leader of the western world

for doing nothing but handicapping his bets

after leading sophmoric cheers for change...

say mr....

spare some change?

plus ca change...

you know the rest by now mes amis.

[Tinker]

[Tinker]

[Caskhades]

Tinks,

Regardless of Mr. P's gloating here, one has to admit that there's a not-so-subtle scent of hypocrisy here. This is not (at least not legitimately) about you, this is about the far-left wing of the Democrat party. Apparently, bombing Arabs is ok with far-left Democrats if done by US (or allies) if a Democrat is in power. That much seems evident from where I'm standing. Let me know what you think.

[Tinker]

[skyhook77sfg]

dont give up yet gentlemen.

the mad dog just may have no way out.

he could be cornered and now fears rabies test in the hague.

that would be the correct karmic outcome...

off to the nether lands in orange jump suit and chains

with a large sedative suppository up his you know what.

thats his worst nightmare.

let it be

let it be.

thats all we are sayin..,..

[Tinker]