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French military intervention in Libya starting soon?

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Re: French military intervention in Libya starting soon?

Postby Najar » Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:26 pm

What will be the end game here?

Quadaffi gets killed , and tribal wars ensue - whom will we send to keep peace? french troops on the ground? That wont sit very well with muslim populace.

Quadafi gets killed , tribal wars ensue and we walk away - can we leave an oil endowed nation to become a somalia? Readup on barbary pirates and this will be ten times worse.

Quadaffi quits and takes refuge in Venizuela? Remote chance.

Quadaffi gets cornered and signs up with Islamic extremists?
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Re: French military intervention in Libya starting soon?

Postby Caskhades » Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:28 pm

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Re: French military intervention in Libya starting soon?

Postby Alph » Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:03 pm

Libya has followed the easy example of Iran in how to manipulate the West. Do whatever you want to whomever you please, and then call for negotiations whenever the West starts to act.

Should this posture remain unchanged, he'll slaughter the rest of the rebels over the coming weeks while sitting at the negotiating table. No one in the West will do anything about it, and, ten years from now, he'll be sitting in upstate New York in a Bedouin tent en route to a lecture's he's giving at the UN on human rights.
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Re: French military intervention in Libya starting soon?

Postby Hans Bulvai » Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:31 pm

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Spending time alone
It's time to set my demons free
Been put to the test
My mind laid to rest
I'm on a psycho holiday
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Re: French military intervention in Libya starting soon?

Postby skyhook77sfg » Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:55 pm

end game ideally finds moamar the madman in next cell to psychiatrist karadzic

trading some of his stached gudda cheese for an extra hour of therapy

between their sessions in the dock of the world court

demonstrating to up and coming imitators

we as a species dont put up with their kind

anymore and never again applies to all.


dont kill them

thats their way.

they're ok with that.

put them on eternal public display

for the impotent little creeps they really are.

that terrifies the shit out of them in my opinion.

its why hitler killed his wife and his dog then himself.

let's learn from their psychpathologies

and use it against their would be iimitators.
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Re: French military intervention in Libya starting soon?

Postby jerryberry » Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:17 pm

I just hope that France prefers the client state/tribe model. To hell with Democracy, get the some weapons into the hands of the nouveau elite and start milkin' those cows. Is this approach kosher via Doctrinaire De Milo?
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Re: French military intervention in Libya starting soon?

Postby Mr. Perfect » Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:19 pm

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Re: French military intervention in Libya starting soon?

Postby Mr. Perfect » Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:21 pm

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Re: French military intervention in Libya starting soon?

Postby Mr. Perfect » Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:22 pm

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Re: French military intervention in Libya starting soon?

Postby skyhook77sfg » Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:50 pm

there you go again mr p....

your predictable line of attack instead of response...
identify the bete noirs of the poster you wish to attack...
accuse them of being like them...

refrain from discussion of particulars that differentiate one situation from another...

'simply post a no when reasoning is caLLED FOR...

repeat ad infinitum and on to nauseum....


leading to the uncomfortable conclusion that is sadly appropriate...

constant conflict for its own sake.

the world as a snake pit.

you're all nasty

but I'm the nastiest.

a variation of yeah though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death

I fear no evil because I"m
the meanest sonofabitch in the valley.




I know the type too well.

and tend to watch

the inevitable

from a safe distance.
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Re: French military intervention in Libya starting soon?

Postby Mr. Perfect » Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:59 pm

skyhook, I have been as explicit as possible in my reasons for opposing this action.

Half baked commitment

No defined mission/rules of engagement/plan/command structure etc

Window of opportunity nearly shut

No precedent for success based on past missions. All successful dictator removal ops required far more than a no fly zone.

Failure is an enormous international political setback

I don't know how to be more clear, and to date none of the new neocons have addressed a single point.

The substance of the other poster is like countless Iraq War armchair generals, talking about sending this ship there, these tanks there ,these troops from here to there, put his guy in this political office, remove that guy from that political office, blah blah blah, heads nowhere.
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Re: French military intervention in Libya starting soon?

Postby Azrael » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:28 pm

Libya lacks the sectarian and ethnic divisions that plague Iraq. There won't be a civil war after Gaddafi.

As for tribal divisions, many tribes are fighting against Gaddafi, and the rebels have treated prisoners very well.

There's no reason to expect bloody retribution.

Libya isn't Iraq. Obama is a much wiser man than Bush.
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Re: French military intervention in Libya starting soon?

Postby Mr. Perfect » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:31 pm

Spoken like a true neocon.
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Re: French military intervention in Libya starting soon?

Postby Mr. Perfect » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:38 pm

You've successfully dodged again all my substantive and reasonable objections.

Qboy winning this thing is the worst thing for humanity, and we're stacking the deck in his favor.

And you turn a blind eye.
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Re: French military intervention in Libya starting soon?

Postby skyhook77sfg » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:54 pm

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Re: French military intervention in Libya starting soon?

Postby Mr. Perfect » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:58 pm

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Re: French military intervention in Libya starting soon?

Postby skyhook77sfg » Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:11 pm

you make my point well.

next case.
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Re: French military intervention in Libya starting soon?

Postby skyhook77sfg » Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:12 pm

you make my point well.
diagnosis confirmed.
next patient please.
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Re: French military intervention in Libya starting soon?

Postby Mr. Perfect » Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:32 pm

More dodging.
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Re: French military intervention in Libya starting soon?

Postby Azrael » Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:31 pm

Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what kills you.
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Re: French military intervention in Libya starting soon?

Postby Caskhades » Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:32 pm

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Re: French military intervention in Libya starting soon?

Postby Mr. Perfect » Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:34 pm

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Re: French military intervention in Libya starting soon?

Postby Azrael » Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:55 pm

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Re: French military intervention in Libya starting soon?

Postby Mr. Perfect » Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:58 pm

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Re: French military intervention in Libya starting soon?

Postby skyhook77sfg » Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:11 am

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