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Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby skyhook77sfg » Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:43 am

A cunning plan


1. Arab potentates across the Middle East decamp with their money to Europe. No scratch that: they just decamp to Europe where their money already is hidden in various money laundering havens.

2. As a condition for tolerating the presence of these geriatric autocrats and their forbiddingly fundamentalist entourage, European governments require them to purchase a bunch of assets - nothing dangerous you understand, just a bunch of European government bonds selected at "random"; so let's say Ireland, Greece, Portugal shall we. "Would the emir like some Spain with that?"

3. A wholesale departure of rulers from the Middle East of course pushes up oil prices dramatically, so America immediately enlists a million unemployed folks and flies them down to man the oil pipelines from refineries like Al-Khobar to the nearest ports. Whatever happens to the rest of these countries is of course no one's specific concern.

4. The Arab masses in places like Libya, Syria, Jordan etc all decide that with their rulers gone far away, there isn't much point to protesting and so go back to lounging around street corners.

And so the headlines all improve:
A. Stability in the Middle East
B. European debt crisis is over
C. America shows strong jobs growth
D. Oil prices fall

Or something like that.

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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby Colonel Sun » Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:51 am

Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
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1. You're now several kilometres away; and

2. You've got their shoes.
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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby Demon of Undoing » Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:28 pm

I expect Col Sun to be the new Warren Buffet
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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby Colonel Sun » Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:20 pm

Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
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1. You're now several kilometres away; and

2. You've got their shoes.
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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby monster_gardener » Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:45 am

For the love of G_d, may I consider I may be mistaken
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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby Colonel Sun » Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:13 pm

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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby Alph » Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:43 am

Housing numbers out today are bad.

Very bad.

12.6% in year over year decline against the worst housing year in 50 years. Public inventories are up to between 8-11 months of sales, depending on whose figures you use. (With 6 months of sales being the long term average, and the 11 month figures being much more believable to me due to their source.) And that doesn't begin to take into account the shadow inventory of houses being held back by the banks, either on their own books, off their books, or in the hands of people they haven't bothered to foreclose on yet but surely will.

I think that we'll be lucky if we only get another 25% decline. Too many unemployed people. Too much available housing. Too little reasons to pay so much for living in one place as opposed to another in the age of universal chain stores and modern telecommunication. The great cities just might end up being the new rustbelt.
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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby Colonel Sun » Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:03 pm

Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby Alph » Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:18 pm

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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby monster_gardener » Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:54 am

For the love of G_d, may I consider I may be mistaken
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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby Mr. Perfect » Sun Feb 27, 2011 12:41 pm

The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests Patrick Henry

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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby Colonel Sun » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:13 pm

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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby monster_gardener » Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:34 am

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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby monster_gardener » Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:08 am

For the love of G_d, may I consider I may be mistaken
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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby AzariLoveIran » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:15 am

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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby Caskhades » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:40 am

Monster Gardner,

Just the usual warning to take anything by Azari with a large bucket of salt.

The Bullshit about Shanghai is a case in point - US now has 4 times more (known) billionaires than China (and since Chinese tax avoidance can be a literal death sentence, well you get the point).
As to China's divine right to pollute, one might wish to point out that at current rates the glorious Chinese produce and burn more coal in one year (think 3 billion tonnes) than the Brits (home of the fucking industrial revolution) produce in 200 years. How long has it been since that Industrial Revolution again?

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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

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