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The Israel Thread

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Re: The Israel Thread

Postby AzariLoveIran » Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:10 pm

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PAL9000 ..

- Hebrew tribe is a north African tribe .. they came to Egypt as artisans (Hebrew means foreign worker) .. the saga of Ramses II is Saga only ..

- Hebrew tribes was totem worshipers

- Judaism was invented in Babylon when Hebrew tribe was exposed to Zoroastrianism, copying the idea of one god and most elements of it.

- Hebrew tribe are a tribe like many tribes of ME .. Phoneticians and others ..

- 90% of today's Jews are Ashkenazim Jews .. Russian Khzari and Europeans that adapted Judaism

- Neither Jews, nor Christians or Muslims are nations .. repeating they are does not make it true.

- Jews know this, that is why, new buzzword is now, ISRAELI .. they think Israel a nation,

- All Hebrew tribe .. after Babylon ordeal .. are Middle Eastern Jews .. Mizrahi, Sephardi, KavKaz , all same ..

- Ashkenazim are unrelated to Hebrew Tribe .. even their Judaism not same as ME Judaism .. cultural center of Judaism is Persia and not Poland or Russia ..

I had a discussion with a world famous Turkish Jewish doctor .. we discussed Jews of ME, Jews of Turkey, Ottoman Sultans and so fort .. he extremely knowledgeable .. He said, Jews of ME have dissolved into ME people .. DISSOLVED .. no tribe keeps distinct for 2600 yrs .. nobody can differentiate an Iranian Jew from other Iranian ..

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Re: The Israel Thread

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Re: The Israel Thread

Postby Rhapsody » Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:26 pm

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Re: The Israel Thread

Postby Ibrahim » Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:03 am

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Re: The Israel Thread

Postby Rhapsody » Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:52 pm

HAL, is where my contempt for Ibrahim and my view of him as a hypocrite originates. He just has to burry people's expressions critical of Islam or Muslims under a quick load elephants dung. He could just have said that he thinks Muslims and Islam in Canada appear on average better adapted to modernity than in Europe perhaps. Instead he chooses to isolate, twist a bit more, bend some extra, put in another context in order to "show", "prove" whatever is in his interest, be sure the person critical of Islam is made look like a subhuman, while diverting the discussion away from the original issue as much as possible doing that.

In the video Steyn talks about some interesting stuff, illustrating with anecdotal events in politics and culture. Even though he is clear in the beginning of the video that his criticism is against extremist Islam and leftwing politics and politicians... he, as all people critical of Islam to any degree, must be presented as the ultimate racist bigoted dickhead who "just hates Muslims and Islam".

When Moroccan Islamic youth in Holland has the highest score in violent, criminal behavior in our neighborhoods, and some people dare to question whether this score is also high because of their Islamic and/or Moroccan cultural background, let alone stating that this is the case... all Ibrahim has to say is that he is sure followers of Wilders don't mind mentioning these criminal youths are brown-skinned people who do this. Suggesting of course that only racists can come up with something like that. The idea that Islamic cultures can produce their own racist, "us" versus "them" bigots and that this is in part causing these problems and high statistics.. must be ignored of course by Lord Ibrahim.
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Re: The Israel Thread

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Re: The Israel Thread

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Re: The Israel Thread

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Re: The Israel Thread

Postby skyhook77sfg » Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:01 pm

proper digestion of immigration waves is problematic everywhere...

even the melting pot hAd bouts of indigestion...

read what the NY newspapers early 1900's were saying about the Jewish crime epidemic...

even the police commissioner did his share of stereotyping exactly as posted above about Holland...

then it was the Italians...earlier the Irish....

economic status trumps all...
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Re: The Israel Thread

Postby AzariLoveIran » Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:10 pm

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Actually, Immigrants with money are NEGATIVE ..

They not hungry ..

All Billionaire Iranians in America, most in high tech silicon valley, are sons and daughters of Iranian cleaning ladies .. they were hungry.

Most Chinese billionaires coming to Vancouver, their kids become bums .. they not hungry ..

Iranian Immigrants now are the most, top of the top, sought-after immigrants .. they educated, young, little bit money, and HUNGRY ..

Canada get best of them .. Canada has a fast lane for Iranians ..


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Re: The Israel Thread

Postby skyhook77sfg » Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:31 pm

for HAL

Amazon.com: The Ashkenazic Jews: A Slavo-Turkic People in Search of a Jewish Identity (9780893572419): Paul Wexler: Books.
www.amazon.com › Books › History › World

YOU MIGHT FIND PROFESSOR OF LINGUISTICS AT TEL AVIV UNIVERSITY WEXLER'S THESIS INTERESTING...

PERHAPS EXPLAINS WHY YIDDISH WAS OUTLAWED IN ISRAEL AND ATTEMPTS TO STAGE YIDDISH PLAYS RESULTED IN ARRESTS.
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Re: The Israel Thread

Postby Colonel Sun » Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:40 pm

Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
Because

1. You're now several kilometres away; and

2. You've got their shoes.
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Re: The Israel Thread

Postby I am ST » Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:48 pm

Let's posit a theoretical scenario. You need substance X. Country A is an unpleasant place that produces a lot of X. Country B is a similarly unpleasant place, that could produce a lot of X. Invading a country will disrupt its production of X for 10 years, after which production can start/resume. Assuming that your goals are to have a continuous supply of X, and to turn both A and B into less unpleasant places, which country do you invade/support revolts in first?

Not that I think actual US policy is anywhere near that rational. But still, food for thought.
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Re: The Israel Thread

Postby skyhook77sfg » Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:11 pm

AND

country B has been placed into the crosshairs by a group of eminent americans working on the side for a foreign political party who say the way to secure the realm for that foreign government is to eliminate its most powerful opponent's ability to oppose.

just happens to be country B.

oh yes

and those eminent americans proceed to subvert the US intelligence system and stovepipe invented data to force US fulfilling foreign policy of the tail that wags the dog.
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Re: The Israel Thread

Postby I am ST » Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:17 pm

I own and have read the Mearsheimer/Walt book. I was not persuaded, but what do I know? If they are right and I am wrong, the country C lobby was (is?) the most powerful (non?)governmental organization in the US. My main doubts center around the ability of the C-lobby to rally sufficient (secular and religious) C-culturals in the hegemon to do the lobby's bidding. They tend to be a heterogenous lot, after all.
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Re: The Israel Thread

Postby AzariLoveIran » Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:39 pm

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Re: The Israel Thread

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Re: The Israel Thread

Postby Rhapsody » Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:37 pm

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Re: The Israel Thread

Postby skyhook77sfg » Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:10 pm

no, it is a small but highly motivated, highly organized, highly financed group of reactionary diaspora likudniks like abramoff who assuage theiir guilt for not immigrating to israel by worshipping the new golden calf... state as iconic religious symbol.

and boy do they get results.

ask percy, findlay,mckinney, fulbright, dean and all their other victims.
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Re: The Israel Thread

Postby Milo » Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:26 pm

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Re: The Israel Thread

Postby Rhapsody » Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:29 pm

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Re: The Israel Thread

Postby skyhook77sfg » Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:32 pm

PRETTY MUCH.

BUT IT USED TO CAUSE LOSS OF CITIZENSHIP IF YOU WORKED FOR A FOREIGN POWER.
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Re: The Israel Thread

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