Islamophobia Thread!

[Colonel Sun]

[Colonel Sun]

[Alexis]

[Alexis]

[Hans Bulvai]

[Colonel Sun]

[Rhapsody]

So this Koran burner. Let's aproach this a bit fundamentalist black/white. Who are the bad guys, who are the actual phobiacs and who is the sane crowd?

Bad guys:
1. Koran burners
2. Muslims angry at Koran burners resorting to physical violence, death threats, fatwas, attacks on embassy personel, crying for strict Sharia Law etc.

Phobiacs:
3. Those who say: don't burn Korans, because it only provokes a number of extremist Muslims into serious violence, which will re-inforce the negative stereotypes people have about Muslims, which will further corner Muslims and only radicalize more.

Sane crowd:
4. Don't get phobic about 1) Koran burners and certainly don't let 2) violent extremist Muslims hijack the agenda, nor let the 3) phobiacs allow this problem to become a permanent ulcer by being a soft-doctor who is just too afraid to give the right treatment because it is believed to be more "risky".

[Milo]

[AzariLoveIran]

[Milo]

Father Boutros talks about Muslims viewing questions as attacks; convert or die!

[Sparky]

[quote="Hans Bulvai"Yeah well the Prophet is now gone. Get over it. We see who is plundering today. Hey, one day you are the dog, the other you are the hydrant.[/quote]
Well, see, there's the thing. I was never into it, and you lads can never be over it. He may well be gone, but his most trivial doings and least utterances are the foundations upon which your five pillars are built. His underwhelming moral example forever shall be gold standard against which men shall be measured according to the dogma of your faith. That's as good as it gets, huh mankind?

[Hans Bulvai]

[Milo]

[AzariLoveIran]

[Hans Bulvai]

[Milo]

[Hans Bulvai]

[Milo]

[Hans Bulvai]

[Sparky]

[Hans Bulvai]

[Apollonius]

In imperialist Christian countries you could always find someone who was interested in the culture of the communities being converted. There's always been a tradition of translation, both in words and customs.

Muslims in a position of authority have usually done their best to completely erradicate the indigenous language and its culture, and you find very few people in position of authority who think that it should be otherwise.


As to documentation of Muslim atrocities in history as compared to Christian or Western ones, this gets difficult since there again, Muslims have had so astonishingly little interest in the peoples they have conquered.

It's a fair guess, however, that Muslim incursions into India have probably been responsible for more deaths than all European wars put together.

I've been doing a lot of reading into how Egypt was converted from a Christian to a Muslim country. It's hard digging because the Fatimids and Mamluks weren't as good at keeping records as the Nazis.




Azari:


Calgary has a Muslim mayor! He's Ammaddiya, though, as are most Muslims in Calgary, so he and all the rest of them would face hanging or stoning or having their house burnt down or worse in your country, and in every Muslim country.

[Colonel Sun]

[Apollonius]

Because their prophet came *after* Muhammad?

[Colonel Sun]