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Re: Wikileaks to release Swiss Banking Records on 2000 wealt

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Re: Wikileaks to release Swiss Banking Records on 2000 wealt

Postby Caskhades » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:35 am

In other words, let's make history, family and culture irrelevant. Good luck!

I only want a fair field of play, you say. Sooner or later, it comes down to coercion, and you end up simply replacing one type of discrimination with another.

I don't think anyone is against freedom of opportunity. But the only way to "level the playing field to give everyone an equal shot" is by cutting everyone down to the lowest level. If effect, you're saying - we must stop privileged parents from using their positions to benefit their children. And we must force bad parents to give their children a better shot.

What you speak of is coercion. You just don't want to say it that way (or perhaps even admit that to yourself), so you use all this bullshit about veils to cover your tracks.
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Re: Wikileaks to release Swiss Banking Records on 2000 wealt

Postby I am ST » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:48 am

I guess I'm turning more socialistic in my old age, but CH is just being defeatist. Surely, this is not the most fair system we can have without engaging in too much coercion.

How many incompetent kids get cushy jobs because of daddy's golf buddy?
How many promising entrepreneurs fail to take off simply because they don't have access to deep enough credit pools for startup or expansion costs?
Networking, they call it. Sailing on your parent's network of aquaintances, and making out like a bandit on their accumulated social capital?

I'm not sold on this libertarian thing. The more I think about it, the more I like Alph's guaranteed minimum income thing. And free ebooks for the people. Now if we can only learn how to expunge nurture-induced laziness and defeatism. Perhaps some jolly reeducation camps?
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Postby Caskhades » Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:07 am

Care to say that again, in English?

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Re: Wikileaks to release Swiss Banking Records on 2000 wealt

Postby Mr. Perfect » Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:40 am

Don't ask aferim, his MO is to:

1) Champion himself as the leading advocate of reason and logic

2) Offer up airbiscuits for ideas that generally are an assault on logic and reason

3) When he starts getting shot down he runs away or posts songs from youtube

4) Or argues from obscurity.

I expect more of #4.
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Re: Wikileaks to release Swiss Banking Records on 2000 wealt

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Postby Mr. Perfect » Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:04 am

~, A drug free, sexualized entertainment product free, extramarital sex avoiding society will produce the most advantageous social conditions imaginable, since we know that healthy nuclear families produce the most productive adults, while broken homes simply do not.

So obviously, a wholesome society is in everyone's best interest, in the short term, and in the long term.

Won't you join me in creating such a sublime society?
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Re: Wikileaks to release Swiss Banking Records on 2000 wealt

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Re: Wikileaks to release Swiss Banking Records on 2000 wealt

Postby Mr. Perfect » Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:19 am

~ has already said that we do not earn every good thing we have. But he has not said who earns all the good things you have.
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Postby Mr. Perfect » Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:02 am

I think we ought to have a drug free, porno free society. The least among us would be much better of as we achieve healthy nuclear families.

Won't you join me in this quest?
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Re: Wikileaks to release Swiss Banking Records on 2000 wealt

Postby Caskhades » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:31 pm

I agree. I would also add the ought that we should slaughter anyone who tries to ban porn or booze, and leave their bodies to rot and be eaten by birds and wild animals. I also think we should replace marriage with 5, 10 and 20 year binding contracts, renewable under mutual consent.

I think Mr. Perfect and I ought to have very little difficulty reaching a middle ground behind the veil, don't you think Tilde.
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Re: Wikileaks to release Swiss Banking Records on 2000 wealt

Postby Mr. Perfect » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:22 pm

What I like about it is how self evident everything is.
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I guess then we can conclude that Rawl's little dictum is worthy of disposal onto the ash heap of history.
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