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Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby Tinker » Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:20 pm

The education debt bubble is terrible. Teaching everyone that they should go to college was one of the worst things to happen to this country. It just made college into second high school while leaving people in debt.
The canary didn't die because this mine is dangerous, it died because it's lazy and wasn't raised with a proper work ethic.
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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby Rhapsody » Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:47 pm

It looks like the USA jumped entirely on purpose on the track of inevitable bankrupcy.
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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby Demon of Undoing » Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:05 pm

When I came out of HS , I had a good place to land at the best regional university in the honors program . After I sat down and saw what I'd be looking at to get a BS in what I wanted , I realized it would be probably $40k of debt ( now it is considerably higher) . As a poor kid that never lived in a house that cost that much, you might as well have said it was going to be forty bajilliongazillion dollars. I couldn't see it . I took another path .

There have been a dew of times when I regretted not going . There have been many more where I was very glad I did not . Seeing people that have been out of college for 15 years , still under student loans, will do the trick .
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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby Colonel Sun » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:57 pm

Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
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2. You've got their shoes.
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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby Tinker » Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:55 pm

The canary didn't die because this mine is dangerous, it died because it's lazy and wasn't raised with a proper work ethic.
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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby Colonel Sun » Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:53 pm

Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
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1. You're now several kilometres away; and

2. You've got their shoes.
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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby Tinker » Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:24 pm

The canary didn't die because this mine is dangerous, it died because it's lazy and wasn't raised with a proper work ethic.
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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby YMix » Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:07 pm

Humanity ought to be the first order of interest for humans.
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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby Milo » Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:18 pm

I'm pissing away all of my assets and borrowing all I can at the moment in exchange for education, on the assumption that there's no retirement and that the markets are being manipulated beyond any short term redemption.

I will move entirely to gold on the next even moderate stock market upswing, in preparation for the crash that exploding oil prices will create over the next while.

I anticipate a moderate upswing around Christmass.

The crash is trickier; whenever the king of the KSA kicks the bucket will be the beginning of the end of the oil status quo and the markets will stop serving our elites to their satisfaction.

The elites will demand bailout after bailout and that should chase pretty well all of the smallfry out, because the bailouts will rule, not value. After that, look for them to clamp down on gold and other solid instruments to try to force the small investor to play their game, after all they don't want to use their money! The small investor will not comply.

When, or if, or how, this petulant herking and jerking will end is anyone's guess. I fear that the capitalists will end up buying themselves another revolution.
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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby AzariLoveIran » Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:33 pm

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The safest place now to be in is " American stocks " .. American stocks will pay dramatic return in less than 2-3 yrs .. dramatic

Why and how ? ?


Only way out for America from this is higher stock price .. that is the only chance for America


Why ?


Higher stock prices will make corporation recapitalize, buy new equipment, higher new employee, people will feel richer, start spending, people will start paying their mortgages, less foreclosures , etc etc . .


Idiot Greenspan said a month ago .. first time the imbecile says something makes sense ..


Gold ? ?

Could be trap ..


Better buy Cacao .. imagine Chinese start eating chocolate :lol: .. Good thing with Chocolate is once eaten it's out of circulation, forever .. have you seen people eating gold ?


Keep away from Gold .. don't .. 4get inflation .. D E F L A T I O N is name of the game, next 10+ yrs


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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby Milo » Wed Sep 08, 2010 10:02 pm

Obama begins the Dems campaign in earnest:

"an end to the Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthy, saying the country cannot afford $700 billion in tax breaks that benefit “millionaires and billionaires.”"

"The two major pieces of Mr. Obama’s package — expanding and making permanent a popular credit for businesses’ research and experimentation expenses, and allowing them to write off the full value of new equipment purchases immediately in 2011 — have longstanding Republican and corporate support.

Mr. Obama is calculating that business groups will like the package so much that Republicans will feel they have to support it in Congress. In fact, Mr. Obama appeared to be setting up the debate in such a way that he can accuse Republicans of opposing it simply because he proposed it."

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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby Colonel Sun » Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:52 pm

Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
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2. You've got their shoes.
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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby Colonel Sun » Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:54 pm

Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby Colonel Sun » Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:20 pm

Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
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2. You've got their shoes.
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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby Colonel Sun » Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:56 pm



After reading this one's first reaction is to turn into a survivalist. However, it's been like this for over a decade . . .
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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby AzariLoveIran » Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:39 pm

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This has consequences for American economy and Americans ..

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Some Boom amongst the Gloom . . .

Postby Colonel Sun » Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:50 am

Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby Demon of Undoing » Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:33 am

Don't know what it is, but I'm agin'it.
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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby noddy » Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:36 am

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Oh ye of little faith . . .

Postby Colonel Sun » Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:41 pm

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Re: Oh ye of little faith . . .

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Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Postby Rhapsody » Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:54 pm

Things are much better than in worse times.
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