The North American Thread

[AzariLoveIran]

[Tinker]

[AzariLoveIran]

[Mr. Perfect]

[Hans Bulvai]

The irony!
Seems that the FBI is too violent for these mooslims.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 03720.html

[AzariLoveIran]

[Hans Bulvai]

Up in flames! Along with any evidence there might be down the road.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_explosive_house

[monster_gardener]

[Endovelico]

[Demon of Undoing]

I'd just like to put together a little note to the American people:

I told you so. When The War on Drugs was the latest team sport, and they were confiscating anything and everything they could get their hands on, regardless of whether it even belonged to the malefactor , I told you this would get out of hand . I told you it looked more like the Inquisition than law and order . I told you that the militarization of the American police would not happen in a vacuum . I told you that government does not build a capacity only to use it less and less ; instead , they tend to use it more and more, with increasingly less reference to its original intent . I told you that if you got used to seeing bigger and bigger machines used to spy on, interfere with and arrest your neighbor for his personal idiosyncrasies, it would be a matter of time before it came after you for even less reason . I told you that if you used your personal tastes as a weapon, you would one day find yourself the anti-flavor of the month . I told you , as you reveled in watching the darkies do the frog walk on " Cops" that you don't glamorize the function of the state organs or they will make you part of the show. You called me paranoid .You didn't listen.

Now , in your own self interest, you can't even be bothered to be concerned because it still smells like something official. Even though you have that funny tickling feeling in the back of your throat from the anal probes the authorities are handing out , even though you are having your kids sexually assaulted by strangers; even though your garbage man is watching, and the government continually censors what you learn , you still can'
t be bothered to put down the fucking toys .

And I must say at this point, if ever you are searching for sympathy, look in the dictionary between " shit" and " syphilis" . I am fresh out.

[Endovelico]

[Demon of Undoing]

[Hans Bulvai]

[Demon of Undoing]

You know how I know we are boned ? There are over 9000 topics I'd like to run but will not, because I don't want either Tinker or myself watched/harassed/targeted more than we already are.

[crashtech]

[Endovelico]

[Tinker]

[Endovelico]

The interesting question is: how long and how far can you push people in the US and in Europe, before they rebel? And I don't mean demonstrate or chain yourself to the White House. In the US most people are more respectful of authority than in Europe, which makes me think that real rebellion is more likely over here. France has the tradition, but I would expect Spaniards to be readier to take that step, once things go too far.

[Captain Murphy]

Fear not, Endo. The United States is practically overflowing with freedom-loving, truth-seeking, all-seeing libertarians like Demon. One of these days, they tell us, they'll exercise their Second Amendment rights. Yeah, I know what you're thinking, "all they've managed so far is Waco, Oklahoma City, and that IRS airplane incident", but this time will be different!

[Endovelico]

I find it puzzling that members of Congress seem to be readier than most people to accept human rights restrictions. Aren't voters smart enough to make different choices? With a system of primaries which allows for just about anybody to give it a try, how come only the reactionaries seem to get elected?

[AzariLoveIran]

[AzariLoveIran]

[Demon of Undoing]

[Demon of Undoing]

It has not now nor has it ever been my contention that the people will rise up out of American crunchy goodness and do the Washington/Jefferson/Revere thing. It has been my contention that, if times get hard enough , people will start using that as a solution. No, it won't work, there will never be another America , but it can work enough to erase the current order.

What we get after that is anybody's guess .

[I am ST]