Global Warming Apostasy!

[Colonel Sun]

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^^^ "3. Cherry-pick the evidence: trumpet whatever appears to support your case and ignore or rubbish the rest"

[Colonel Sun]

There's quite a few data processing steps in that paper, with each step requiring specific assumptions about the data.

One has to wonder if they got it right. It there another independent analysis?

Anyways, CO2 lags the Ice Ages and is driven by not a driver of.

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[Sparky]

A few years ago, I was chatting with a fellow who was suggesting that carbon could be sequestered by growing trees, chopping them down and burying them (perhaps in abandoned mineshafts.) I quipped that since trees are untidy, messy things it might be better to build wholesome machines to scrub CO2 out of the air and pump out healthy, life giving oxygen instead. We could run them on biodiesel!

Today I discovered this:


http://greenupgrader.com/3744/synthetic ... scrubbers/

Easter Island here we come!

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[Captain Murphy]

The flaws of climate models are nothing new or mysterious to people working in the field. Clearly, they are not complete earth simulators, but that alone does not invalidate their utility. Hairsplitting about the accuracy of climate models is irrelevant -- both warming and a build-up of CO2 have been shown time and time again to be occurring at a rate that exceeds the recent historical trend.

Are the error bars for climate models looking 50 years out huge? Yes. Was the relationship between temperature and CO2 levels affected by different factors in the distant past (according to proxy measures)? Yes. Does this matter today? No, not unless someone can advance a credible theory explaining both the warming and CO2 trends, two things which we know are related by way of the greenhouse effect. Are there any other interesting on-going phenomena that could explain these trends? It appears not.

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[Caskhades]

So why is Global Warming bad again?

Personal anecdote: I spend far too much money on heating, personally. Plus I hate the cold. Local warming, at least, would be a boon for me.
Sure, a bunch of Maldivans and a few million Bangladeshis will buy it. On the plus side, people will actually *want* to live in Canada and Siberia. Net positive.

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[Sparky]

Aren't people denying that the change in our climate is due to mankind's actions, rather than denying that there is change? Given that, it doesn't seem inconsistent to suggest that there are benefits to enjoy from a warmer earth.

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