North Korea firing hundreds of shells at South Korean Island

[Mr. Perfect]

[Colonel Sun]

[Milo]

This means that NK needs money.

They will continue to try acts which, in their view, will not risk war but will scare SK and others, until they get cash or trade. Then they will cease, until they run short again.

Oh and you can read the Kim family in place of NK and lose no part of the evaluation.

[Mr. Perfect]

[AzariLoveIran]

[Mr. Perfect]

The French, who obviously have gays in the military, could perhaps be trusted.

[Mr. Perfect]

[Mr. Perfect]

[crashtech]

[AzariLoveIran]

[Azrael]

[Colonel Sun]

[rednblacklumberjack]

[Ibrahim]

[crashtech]

Does NK have enough fuel to run all that old hardware?

[Demon of Undoing]

Old Soviet doctrine ( which they apparently have not much deviated from ) was to run hell for leather for 96 hours to the expense of men and machines. Units were not to so much replace their losses after the offensive as to be cannibalized and reincorporated into follow on units . It was their intention to literally run an armored division into the ground and simply capitalize on whatever advances they had made. I doubt not a bit that this is mostly the pattern the Norks would do, because the idea behind the attack a la outrance was a very realistic assessment that one can better bargain a peace while sitting 300 miles inside the territories in question .

And yes, the people would suffer severely .The doctrine also called for massive use of chemical weapons. Let's hope they shredded that particular operational appendix .

[crashtech]

Kinda forgot about the chemical stuff.

Damn. More propaganda it is, then. Crazy bastards...

[Ibrahim]

[Colonel Sun]

[Azrael]

I think that some NK units could make it to outer Seoul; but NK couldn't take the city, just some outer and perhaps some inner suburbs.

Their offensive would be halted within two weeks.

It would still be horrible. Tens of thousands of civilians would die.

[Mr. Perfect]

[Mr. Perfect]

[Ibrahim]

[Demon of Undoing]

I don't think it can be denied that any ground attack by N Korea would be a one way trip . The road to Seoul would make the two lane from Kuwait to Basra ca '91 look like a fender bender . It would be truly epic . But unless the character of NK has changed dramatically for the better in the past 60 years ( I doubt it ) , these people will simply drive on the backs of their dead brothers , to the last . I have sympathy for the idea that minds may change as soon as they see all the Starbucks , and that would be nice . But when the reporter from Pyongyang says the young people in the parades are crying and screaming for the Dear Leader or whatever , there is a reason for it beyond acting . This sort of oppression will do apey things to your head .

And so Mr P doesn't have to raid the pages of the various sniper fora any more , you can forget assassinating the Kims . Impossible short of nuking where he is standing . Someone inside might do it on their own for whatever reason, I guess , but I have considerable doubt it would even make much difference .



And I did the math - even allowing for 50% hits and a further 20% degradation due to Murphy , you still have the capability for a flight of ten A10s or F16s destroying the van of an entire motor rifle or armor division . That sort of turnaround can be done maybe four times a day . Assuming they survive antiair . But the point is , a fraction of the air to mud that SK/US forces have in the air means death on a stick for the Norks .

The use of SF is an entirely different matter, and to my mind, the greater threat .

[Mr. Perfect]

My feeling is snipers are cheap, why not give it a "shot".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raufoss_Mk_211