Marx and Marxism

[Ibrahim]

Marx, like everyone else, seems to play the prediction game in the same way as those preachers who keep scheduling the apocalypse. If it doesn't happen now, just wait a bit longer. Serious cits and restructuring (as Canada and New Zealand did in the 90's) could put the problem off for a long time but that requires a kind of political maturity and consensus that appears to be out of fashion.

[Tinker]

[AzariLoveIran]

[Ibrahim]

[Endovelico]

[AzariLoveIran]

[crashtech]

If capitalism is broken, it is because we as humans are broken, and the same broken fate will await any another system that is attempted.

I produce things of value, and expect to receive market value in exchange for them. The more socialist a system becomes, the less a producer receives for his product in order to fund those who produce nothing.

Capitalist systems also fund those who produce nothing, but the key difference is that in capitalism, the arrangements are entered into voluntarily, and in socialism, they occur at the point of a gun.

Since it is axiomatic to socialism that the most productive are the highest taxed, the incentive to be productive slowly disappears, replace by a culture of mediocrity where most do the bare minimum to get by, or less. I see this attitude often in wage workers, and rarely in commission workers.

I know this stuff is way too simple for most of you, but sometimes it is helpful to get back to basics. Every lesson about work and productivity I have ever learned in 27 years in my chosen field have taught me that "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" is a high minded pronouncement, but a complete disaster in real life.

[Mr. Perfect]

[Mr. Perfect]

[Mr. Perfect]

[Mr. Perfect]

[Mr. Perfect]

[Ibrahim]

[Tinker]

[Ibrahim]

[crashtech]

if Communism/Socialism/Collectivism was a superior way of organizing human affairs, there is no reason why it would not have already become the dominant structure within corporations, even under a laissez-faire meta-system. So where is it working, and what lessons can we derive from these working examples?

[Tinker]

[Tinker]

[YMix]

[crashtech]

[crashtech]

[Tinker]

Fair enough. So define Communism, since it's such a loaded term with so many different permutations.

Do you mean real Communism like a Kibbutz or do you mean State Fascism like Stalinism or Maoism?

[YMix]

[crashtech]

[Mr. Perfect]