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[Tinker]

[AzariLoveIran]

[Tinker]

[AzariLoveIran]

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To start an operation of that sort & scale . . Afghanistan, Iraq , many bases in Central Asia , many bases in KavKaz (Georgia, Azarbaijan, etc), Pakistan . . etc etc . . needs yrs and yrs of preparation . . equipment must be adapted to those theaters, day-after must be prepared, a viable day-after . . all this takes yrs . .

But the hit came shortly after 9/11 . .


Report says, supposedly Biden plan, news in the papers, things ready for Iran operation . . preparing since many yrs . . waiting for some (orchestrated) dramatic event to start lashing out.


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[Demon of Undoing]

This is something many people are not familiar with outside the US , because foreign military is simply incapable of encompassing the wide range of tasks that America expects of its own. The American people know it even when they don't know a soldier from a ham sandwich .

The US military has a plan for everything. Everything. If the ghost of John Paul Jones rises from the grave , possesses the body of Paul Reubens, leads an attack on a New Mexico laboratory to free aliens in suspended animation so they can start an army of gay cloned hedgehogs aiming to retake Jerusalem, there is a specific three hole binder in the E ring of the Pentagon that addresses that ( OPLAN 42-344A Appendix D covers the use of WMDs and the environmental impact study completed by MIT in 2004, as opposed to the early 90s summit by Lawrence Livermore) .

These guys spend over a trillion dollars a year ( you don't actually believe the official budget, do you ?) . They have had more or less that level of funding for over 60 years now. Most countries won't see the DoD annual budget- kind of money for the whole nation. The level of paperwork and " what-iffing" is greater than anywhere on the planet by an order of magnitude . When an officer gets too old or shot up to fight and run a combat unit , they put them to work on this , so they can ride out the last ten years until retirement without killing themselves ( also, who better to do this)? And it's the reason why the US was able to pile on the CENTCOM and global actions it did . Not only were they thinking about it ahead of time, they ran exercises yearly and computer simulations daily. It's called the O-3 , Operations, and outside the tactical level, it gets a life of its own.

Well, that and the fact that the US did this all 13 years before , and it therefore was not the first rodeo . It's not so much that this isn't a conspiracy like Azari wants. It's that hell yes it's a conspiracy, one of the best ever laid down. It's called the security apparatus of US . Of course they weren't surprised ( in the tactical, yes ; surprise is always possible but never forgivable ) . Not omnipresent, but as close as has ever been managed .

[Mattmovies]

I wonder how many Muslims think Obama's a Muslim. If most of them don't, then that is sort of an expected conclusion. But if more Muslims think of Obama as Muslim... I don't know what it would mean but it would be interesting.

[YMix]

Obama is in an unenviable position. Many Americans see him as a Muslim, while Muslims see him as an American.

[Tinker]

Demon A great book that goes into detail on that sort of thing is "Soldiers of Reason" by Alex Abela. it's about the history of the Rand Corporation whose files he was given access to in order to write his book.

[Hoosiernorm]

[Tinker]

Hoosiernorm The difference is between aspiration and accomplishment.

[Demon of Undoing]

Islam, Christianity and All other religions wish they were as successful at inculcating values and methods as the modern American way has been . None of them have educated as many, indoctrinated as many into demanding that it conform to US norms , or saved as many lives as US methods ( ask Borlaug) .

[AzariLoveIran]

[Demon of Undoing]

[noddy]

wow, only 1 in 5 americans is disinterested and ignorant, personally I would have suspected alot more.

[Tinker]

Based on my experience dealing with potential voters. I think it's more 1 in 5 are interested and informed.

[Tinker]

[Demon of Undoing]

[noddy]

blink. bz.

[Ibrahim]

Obama seems not to be very religious at all. It seems his religious affiliations are mostly politically motivated.

Statistically American voters prefer Muslims to atheists, but obviously Christian are stratospherically more popular than both so Obama identifies himself, and has for years identified himself, as a Christian.

Now, Obama may not be a Christian in the theological sense, but anybody who believes he is a Muslim in any meaningful way is simply stupid.

[Ibrahim]

[Tinker]