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Whence came European Civilization?

Postby Tinker » Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:40 am

http://giraffeboards.com/showthread.php?t=17424" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This post is very good on the topic, from a British businessman who just returned from Tunisia. I have nothing to say on it, but I thought you'd all be interested.
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Re: Insurrection in Tunisia

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Re: Insurrection in Tunisia

Postby Endovelico » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:23 am

It's a pity. In my present angry mood at our northern "partners" in Europe, I dream of a Mediterranean alternative which would bring together the northern European shore of the Mediterranean - minus France - with the Maghreb, Turkey, Lebanon and (once the Palestinian question is properly solved) Israel. Science and technology are deeply rooted in Northern Europe, but true civilization is a Mediterranean thing. I'm becoming convinced that there are two Europes, and the sooner we sign the divorce papers, the better it will be.
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Re: Insurrection in Tunisia

Postby Colonel Sun » Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:38 pm

"True civilization"?
Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
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Re: Insurrection in Tunisia

Postby Colonel Sun » Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:06 pm

I have some acquaintances who work for a large international institution based in part in Tunisia.

Somewhat concerned for their well being. On the other hand, they have plenty of experience dodging trouble. For example, being previously based in the Ivory Coast when it erupted into civil war.

I do recall asking one of them a few years ago about the political situation in Tunisia and he replied, "The President keeps tight control over the country".

Looks like that control may be slipping away.
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Re: Insurrection in Tunisia

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Re: Insurrection in Tunisia

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Re: Insurrection in Tunisia

Postby Tinker » Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:59 pm

Apparently the police in one district instructed the angry mob to go and trash the home of one of the President's relatives instead. They did so with mirth and gusto while the Coast Guard watched from offshore.
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Re: Insurrection in Tunisia

Postby Torchwood » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:46 pm

Apparently in the Arab world you get a choice between corrupt autocrats, or Islamists.
Despair.
Pessimism is the soft option.
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Re: Insurrection in Tunisia

Postby Hans Bulvai » Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:17 am

Now I'm far from home
Spending time alone
It's time to set my demons free
Been put to the test
My mind laid to rest
I'm on a psycho holiday
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Re: Insurrection in Tunisia

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Re: Insurrection in Tunisia

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Re: Insurrection in Tunisia

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Re: Insurrection in Tunisia

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Re: Insurrection in Tunisia

Postby Azrael » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:41 am

Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what kills you.
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Re: Insurrection in Tunisia

Postby noddy » Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:15 am

ill stick up for milo in this, its unusual for me to agree with him :)

the language is childish, but the reasoning is considered healthy in our parts of the world - you really only get so far blaming the germans for being germans and if you have a vision which is coherant and has other people behind it, then you dont need all of europe to agree with you, all you need is an environment that allows you to do so - and the more you centralise and unify europe, the more the environment will stop you.

classic anglosphere cultural prejudices 101.
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Re: Insurrection in Tunisia

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Re: Insurrection in Tunisia

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Re: Insurrection in Tunisia

Postby Colonel Sun » Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:33 am

Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
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Re: Insurrection in Tunisia

Postby Colonel Sun » Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:41 am

Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
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Re: Insurrection in Tunisia

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