Re: Ending Privacy for Good.

Posted:
Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:21 pm
by Mr. Perfect
So was this:

The cat is far out of the bag. If you don't nip in the bud you will lose control. We already passed up the flash point, the dominoes are falling.
Re: Ending Privacy for Good.

Posted:
Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:38 pm
by skyhook77sfg
if the cheney bush unitary executive had
PAID ATTENTION TO THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY WARNINGS
911 WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED
THERE WOULD BE NO HEIMATLAND SECURITY TSA
TO CAUSE YOUR CHENEY BUSH GROPES ....
instead the draftdodging dead eye dickhead
and his sidekick scooter were too busy plotting
how to flame CIA officer Valerie Plame
cause her husband blew their forged case against Iraq
REALITY 101
Re: Ending Privacy for Good.

Posted:
Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:49 pm
by Mr. Perfect
But it didn't begin in 2002-2003. It began under the Obama administration. Violation of the 4th amendment. Obama's doing. Sexual assault without probably cause is policy created by the Obama administration.
What would be your motivation for distorting the truth about this?
Re: Ending Privacy for Good.

Posted:
Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:53 pm
by NapLajoieonSteroids
Whenever it started, it must stop. Organizations like Homeland Security are an abomination and this bill will be a blight on freedom.
Re: Ending Privacy for Good.

Posted:
Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:04 pm
by Mr. Perfect
Time to saddle up for Ron Paul. You had better be sending him money, and you had better give until it hurts.
Re: Ending Privacy for Good.

Posted:
Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:18 pm
by Captain Murphy
How are pat downs today any more of a violation of the 4th amendment than the mandatory bag searches and occasional pat downs that have occurred for years before the Obama administration?
Re: Ending Privacy for Good.

Posted:
Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:33 pm
by skyhook77sfg
amazing how someone who claims to know so much
has to deny, decry, dissemble, distract and derail
fyi:
Intelligence warnings
The 9/11 Commission Report states that "the 9/11 attacks were a shock, but they should not have come as a surprise. Islamic extremists had given plenty of warnings that they meant to kill Americans indiscriminately and in large numbers."
The Report continued:
"During the spring and summer of 2001, U.S. intelligence agencies received a stream of warnings about an attack al Qaeda planned, as one report puts it "something very, very, very big." Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet told us "the system was blinking red.""
The US administration, CIA and FBI received multiple prior warnings from foreign governments and intelligence services, including France, Germany, the UK, Israel, Jordan, Afghanistan, Egypt, Morocco and Russia.The warnings varied in their level of detail, but all stated that they believed an Al Qaeda attack inside the United States was imminent. British Member of Parliament Michael Meacher cites these warnings, suggesting that some of them must have been deliberately ignored. Some of these warnings include the following:
March 2001 - Italian intelligence warns of an al Qaeda plot in the United States involving a massive strike involving aircraft, based on their wiretap of al Qaeda cell in Milan.
July 2001 - Jordanian intelligence told US officials that al-Qaeda was planning an attack on American soil, and Egyptian intelligence warned the CIA that 20 al Qaeda Jihadists were in the United States, and that four of them were receiving flight training.
August 2001 - The Israeli Mossad gives the CIA a list of 19 terrorists living in the US and say that they appear to be planning to carry out an attack in the near future.
August 2001 - The United Kingdom is warned three times of an imminent al Qaeda attack in the United States, the third specifying multiple airplane hijackings. According to the Sunday Herald, the report is passed on to President Bush a short time later.
September 2001 - Egyptian intelligence warns American officials that al Qaeda is in the advanced stages of executing a significant operation against an American target, probably within the US.
In her testimony to the 9/11 Commission, Condoleezza Rice stated that "the threat reporting that we received in the spring and summer of 2001 was not specific as to time nor place nor manner of attack. Almost all the reports focused on al Qaeda activities outside the United States." However, on August 6, 2001, the President's Daily Briefing, entitled Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US warned that bin Laden was planning to exploit his operatives' access to the U.S. to mount a terrorist strike.
In July 2001 at the G8 summit in Genoa, anti-aircraft missile batteries were installed following a report that terrorists would try to crash a plane to kill George Bush and other world leaders.[
On the morning of September 11, 2001, the National Reconnaissance Office, who are responsible for operating U.S. reconnaissance satellites, had scheduled an exercise simulating the crashing of an aircraft into their building, four miles (6 km) from Washington Dulles International Airport.
A 2004 USA Today article, "NORAD had drills of jets as weapons", describes pre-9/11 NORAD drills that suggest they were prepared for such an attack as happened on 9/11:
"In the two years before the September 11 attacks, the North American Aerospace Defense Command conducted exercises simulating what the White House says was unimaginable at the time: hijacked airliners used as weapons to crash into targets and cause mass casualties.
One of the imagined targets was the World Trade Center."
REPEAT SYSTEM BLINKING RED
FROM CIA DIRECTOR
but instead of exercising his duty to protect US citizens
Acting President and Draftdoger in Chief Cheney was busy in top secret meetings
with oil company executives studying maps of Iraqi oilfield reserves.
even wikipedia knows what you deny
Re: Ending Privacy for Good.

Posted:
Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:53 pm
by Captain Murphy
I remember failed missile shields, F-22's, and Joint Strike Fighters being all the rage in the year 2001. Soviet era stuff. Some of it had been in the pipeline for a while, but some of it was definitely driven by the Bush administration. They were responsible for reviewing US military posture at the turn of the 21st century and assess intelligence on domestic threats, and chose to take us back to 1984.
Last I heard, the entire .

Re: Ending Privacy for Good.

Posted:
Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:36 am
by skyhook77sfg
fyi
although deadeye dickhead cheney fought any public disclosure of his secret collusions with all the oil majors tooth and nail in court hearing after hearing....
some documents were pried loose from his cold nearly dead fingers
CHENEY ENERGY TASK FORCE DOCUMENTS FEATURE MAP OF IRAQI OILFIELDS ...
http://www.judicialwatch.org/cheney-ene ... nts-featur. onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. - CachedCHENEY ENERGY TASK FORCE DOCUMENTS FEATURE MAP OF IRAQI OILFIELDS. View ยท Discussion. (Washington, DC) Judicial Watch, the public interest group that ...
gee you really dont know much about much
ps
you fell into the punji trap again
all the intel data i posted was from guess where.......
didnt predict the exact date but came real close
cheney and his sidekick really blew it
failed to defend us properly
but whadya expect from
a 5 time draftdodger....
Re: Ending Privacy for Good.

Posted:
Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:21 am
by Tinker
Mr. Perfect's right, we should just kvetch and prevaricate, because it doesn't matter what happens anyway.
Re: Ending Privacy for Good.

Posted:
Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:30 am
by skyhook77sfg
world as eternal illusion of maya
or just a moment of discouragement?
Re: Ending Privacy for Good.

Posted:
Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:19 pm
by skyhook77sfg
thats why yours truly left the heady big apple bagel pizza wonton gyro pita 24/7
for a high valley where no one has ever heard a police siren....ever.
i thank the trillions of lucky stars visible here at night
for having guided me here as well as some
kindred spirits who feel the same
Re: Ending Privacy for Good.

Posted:
Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:21 pm
by skyhook77sfg
WHEN AN AMATEUR ARMCHAIR GENERAL GLOATS:
"guess you've capitulated on the main point, there is no intel that predicted the 9-11 attack."
AFTER SPECIFIC DETAILED WARNINGS BY US AND FOREIGN SOURCES AN ATTACK ON CONUS IMMINENT....
THAT CIA DIRECTOR WARNS RED LIGHT IS FLASHING BECAUSE:
known terrorists are in US
known terrorists are in flight training
one is even taken into custody but FBI agents warnings ignored
potential use of aircraft as weapons known after BOjinka
PROVE AN AMATEURISH GRASP OF WHAT INTEL IS AND WHAT IT CAN DO
intelligence IS NOT some sort of trancelike Edgar Cayce prediction
containing hour and minute event prediction
it examines both humint and sigint
sifts through patterns
looks for confirmations
evaluates sources for reliability
renders analysis of probable scenarios
advises which most likely
THE DOTS WERE CONNECTED BY THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY
THATS WHY NORAD EXERCISES INCLUDED AIRCRAFT CRASHING WTC
only an "intel wannabe" would take your rectally defiladed position
or a hopelessly partisan party hack defending the indefensible
or both.