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Diegetics • View topic - Employer Loyalty Decline
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Employer Loyalty Decline

PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:26 pm
by Tinker
http://www.azcentral.com/business/artic ... cline.html

I've been warning about the breakdown of the social contract, as have many of you.

Re: Employer Loyalty Decline

PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:38 pm
by skyhook77sfg
the corporate mgt drive to reduce/eliminate worker retirement benefits

while enacting ever more golden parachutes, compensation and perks at top

in the Reagan bust the unions days comes to mind...


social contract?

we dont need no stinkin contract...

Re: Employer Loyalty Decline

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:27 am
by Hapax Legomenon
Living it, but won't say a word. Need the work and the money. It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. Historical trends always seem to lead us down this road.

Re: Employer Loyalty Decline

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:09 pm
by Mattmovies

Re: Employer Loyalty Decline

PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:41 am
by Ammianus
Remember kids!

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Re: Employer Loyalty Decline

PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:39 am
by Tinker
mattmovies The number of Gen X and Gen Y kids who graduated thinking they'd be making $ 75k per year 5 years out of college is stupefying. It was sort of true during the dotcom boom if you knew your way around a computer, it setup poor standards. So your adjunct professor is setting up a bunch of kids for failure. I have followed the path that he describes and at times it can be brutal.

On the other hand, if you're like me and willing to sleep in the park, there is a level of freedom that can be attained. It goes away once you have kids though.

Re: Employer Loyalty Decline

PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:22 am
by Mattmovies
Tinker, you bring up a good point. The "pearls of wisdom" that are being obtained during this economic recession/depression are going to be really interesting, and the bad messages are going to take a generation to sort themselves back out again. I wonder if this is how superstitions get developed. My perverse side wants to do a little fast forwarding to see what my generation does when they fill up Congress. Boy is that government going to be warped! :twisted:

Agreed that this latest graduating generation was sort of set up to fail. During the past decade there was also the most attention to "self esteem" programs in public schooling. Self esteem is good to promote, but I wonder if some of the latest grads even have the tools to deal with failing to hit that $75k.

Re: Employer Loyalty Decline

PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:19 pm
by Tinker
Self-esteem programs are the worst things to ever happen to anyone. You know what builds self-esteem? Actual fucking accomplishment.

Re: Employer Loyalty Decline

PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:40 am
by noddy
relationships - whenever some idiot tries to reduce all the wonderful complexity and variation to "one situation with one response" you know you are dealing with a damaged whiner that should be ignored.

its like listening to the drunk guy at the pub on how all women are evil, or the grumpy feminist whining about all men, or the happily married couple for that matter.

get older, get wiser - pick your relationships with more clarity... their are no rules for all outcomes, just the person infront of you and your ability to spot whats going on.

and i might aswell sneek in a stock whine about lots of smaller business is better than fewer large business - which is probably the cause of the "decline" as all our free markets turn into oligopolies entwined with government.

its far more likely you can find a boss you can have a decent relationship with because their is more variety of them to choose from and far more chance you will be an important part of his business rather than being one disposable amongst many.

Re: Employer Loyalty Decline

PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:07 am
by crashtech