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Seymour Hersh

Postby AzariLoveIran » Sun Jun 05, 2011 8:45 pm

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Re: Seymour Hersh

Postby skyhook77sfg » Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:32 pm

the unknown unknowns are much more useful than the known unknowns.

but US military leadership will not accede to an attack on Iran .

odds are 10 to 1 against

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Postby Demon of Undoing » Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:32 am

At the risk of making ALIs turgidity more turgid , I don't think anybody in the military thinks Iraq and Iran would be anything like the same kind of fight. Hersh is often full of shit.
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Re: Seymour Hersh

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Postby Demon of Undoing » Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:01 am

There is assumed to be considerably more cohesion in Iran than Iraq , our best efforts notwithstanding. The conventional aspect would indeed go much as you describe, but the level of resistance by the population is expected to be very high. It's not a fun place to invade , apparently , and less to hold. You need to be able to crack heads on a Mongol , Alexander the Great - level.

Ibrahim , I knew the Mongols. I worked with the Mongols. Ibrahim , we are no Mongols.

Let's say a matter of degree more than kind , perhaps.
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Postby noddy » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:53 am

the conditions that created enough nihilistic anger to get the average american behind it would also probably also the conditions that didnt have enough budget to do so.

however, if some twisted charismatic did a few false flag operations that got people pissed and then offered pardons to the large prison population if they spent time in the forces killing the evil ones :twisted:
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Re: Seymour Hersh

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Postby Demon of Undoing » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:23 pm

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Postby Najar » Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:01 am

Actually there is no oversight for even regular bombing campaigns. Obama has committed US assets for bombing Libya without any congressional oversight. There is no sign that he ever intends to inform the congress. The executive branch can arrest US citizens as enemy combatant , lauch drone strikes in soverign nations and takes sides on civil war and target to assasinate leader of another country.

Iran/Iranians could be subjected to any number of these.
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Re: Seymour Hersh

Postby skyhook77sfg » Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:56 pm

correct NAJAR

Obama is a somewhat more intelligent potus than the previous cheerleader for endless war...

and he doesnt swagger as much but in the end its a continuation of the same policies and programs.


and at least the vp office doesnt run the govt as the draft dodger dead eye dick did
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Re: Seymour Hersh

Postby Demon of Undoing » Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:14 am

... In a way , I'd sorta like to see Biden try to channel Dick Cheney and attempt to run things like Darth Vader.

Something tells me we would need " Yakkety Sax" on a loop.
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Re: Seymour Hersh

Postby skyhook77sfg » Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:35 am

we are on a loop...

continuous replay

sfx may vary....

content doesnt.


not anywhere near as good

as yakety sax though.


btw

re abottabad op...

the anytime anywhere we were never there people

who ran the trident pr event are quite happy

to focus media spotlight on marcinkos offspring.
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Re: Seymour Hersh

Postby Demon of Undoing » Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:10 am

I can only imagine the high speed bullshittery that is going on in the community. Somebody out there is calling for relaxed grooming standards so they can look like Jesus.
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Re: Seymour Hersh

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Re: Seymour Hersh

Postby rednblacklumberjack » Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:16 pm

with a hat to match
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Re: Seymour Hersh

Postby skyhook77sfg » Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:39 pm

USN SEAL Teams have shown a fondness for publicity ever since a habitual drunk plankholder SEAL Team 6 officer used and abused opsec to divert govt funds into unauthorized uses and then turned the spotlight on his exploits via books, interview, even a Marcinko action figure. USN Special Warfare command fell prey to public adulation and cooperated in many movie, tv, book exposures.

US Army Special Forces Operational Detachment Delta, the first dedicated antiterrorist tier one asset never veered from its aversion to any form of publicity...to this day.

They are true to the original SF maxim....anytime, anywhere, we were never there.

Beyond these broad brushstrokes the need to know rule kicks in...

if you had real need to know

you would.
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Re: Seymour Hersh

Postby skyhook77sfg » Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:30 pm

THE ADVANTAGES OF ASYMETRICAL UNCONVENTIONAL WARFARE IN EFFICIENCY, COST/BENEFIT AND MINIMAL MANPOWER ARE SELF EVIDENTLY GAINING ADHERENTS

and if you think the IDF Grapel in Egypt story odd...

you should look in to JacK Idema's amazing adventures in Afghanistan.
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