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EU Monitoring Expulsion of Roma from France

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Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:55 pm
by Tinker
Re: EU Monitoring Expulsion of Roma from France

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Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:09 pm
by AzariLoveIran
Re: EU Monitoring Expulsion of Roma from France

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Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:35 pm
by YMix
This isn't going to be pleasant, especially since the Roma in question do not want to come back and we, Romanians and Bulgarians, do not want them back. The French will blackmail us with accession to the Schengen space, so the local government will have to do something. Not sure what exactly.
Re: EU Monitoring Expulsion of Roma from France

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Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:37 pm
by Tinker
Re: EU Monitoring Expulsion of Roma from France

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Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:44 pm
by YMix
Re: EU Monitoring Expulsion of Roma from France

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Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:59 pm
by Tinker
How would this issue relate to the ratification of the Schengen Area by Romania and Bulgaria? If Bulgaria and Romania sign on won't that make the expulsion of the Roma a moot point?
Re: EU Monitoring Expulsion of Roma from France

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Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:46 pm
by YMix
The French argue that Romania and Bulgaria's ratification should be blocked because these two countries are flooding Europe with their indesirables and that something should be done to keep the gypsy home. Nobody has any idea what.
Part of the French media says that Sarkozy is simply trying to appear tough on foreigners in order to improve his image. Which is probably what this is all about.
Re: EU Monitoring Expulsion of Roma from France

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Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:35 pm
by AzariLoveIran
Re: EU Monitoring Expulsion of Roma from France

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Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:58 am
by YMix
Re: EU Monitoring Expulsion of Roma from France

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Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:27 am
by Tinker
Re: EU Monitoring Expulsion of Roma from France

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Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:50 am
by AzariLoveIran
Re: EU Monitoring Expulsion of Roma from France

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Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:06 am
by YMix
Re: EU Monitoring Expulsion of Roma from France

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Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:37 am
by Sparky
That'll never change unless they abandon their ways and traditions. In a settled and largely industrialised Europe where almost everyone makes their living through waged labour, there is simply no place for a nomadic people who live by their wits.
Re: EU Monitoring Expulsion of Roma from France

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Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:55 am
by Sparky
Re: EU Monitoring Expulsion of Roma from France

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Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:56 am
by AzariLoveIran
Re: EU Monitoring Expulsion of Roma from France

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Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:01 am
by YMix
Re: EU Monitoring Expulsion of Roma from France

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Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:34 am
by Sparky
Re: EU Monitoring Expulsion of Roma from France

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Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:06 am
by AzariLoveIran
Re: EU Monitoring Expulsion of Roma from France

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Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:19 pm
by Sparky
Now see here, Johnny font-sizes, in order to integrate they needs must give up their way of life. As it stands, there is no more place here for their traditional lifestyle and occupations than there is for the whale bone grader or the telegraph operator. Their day is done.
I still don't buy your "Iran as integration paradise, follow our example" flim-flam. Ask your nearest for details.
Re: EU Monitoring Expulsion of Roma from France

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Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:17 pm
by Endovelico
Re: EU Monitoring Expulsion of Roma from France

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Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:33 pm
by Tinker
Re: EU Monitoring Expulsion of Roma from France

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Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:10 pm
by Milo
At the end of the day illegal immigrants are just that, so nobody should be surprised when the state cracks down.
I doubt that you can have a sensible immigration policy that is also a 'nice' one.
Re: EU Monitoring Expulsion of Roma from France

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Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:17 pm
by AzariLoveIran
Re: EU Monitoring Expulsion of Roma from France

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Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:55 am
by Milo
Azari:
Just because the law is unenforced elsewhere, in location or time, doesn't give you any ammunition when it is enforced. I suppose if it wasn't the EU, it would be 'citizens of the world' or some such drivel.
And sending people from a fully developed democracy to a slightly less developed one is no holocaust. It is in more than very poor taste that you make the comparison.
Re: EU Monitoring Expulsion of Roma from France

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Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:08 am
by AzariLoveIran