Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ) Shot In Head

[Alph]

I wonder what happened to civilization. It used to be, a man pulled out a gun and shot someone, people would ask, 'Why would this man do this? What were his motives?'

Now we just ask, 'Whose fault is this?' as if said man was clearly blameless. Clearly someone else must have caused him to do it. Clearly he couldn't be responsible in any real way. It must be someone, someone living, someone whose behaviour we can change. Because it all must be both within our control as a society and out of the control of anyone besides television personalities.

Of course, the youtube page of the shooter lists Mein Kampf and the Communist Manifesto among favorite books, along with... nothing by Sarah Palin. But it couldn't be that a moral degenerate reading books how many of us have read and quoted in PoliSci 101 could have taken them seriously, and acted to kill a Jewish Congresswoman. Nah. That would make him in some way morally responsible. And he's dead, so what political fun is there in that?

[Milo]

[Tinker]

The dude is clearly schizo. Terms like 'moral degenerate' and 'personal responsibility', kind of fall flat. That being said, I don't blame Sarah Palin, but the atmosphere of violent rhetoric being constantly streamed into our faces can definitely be inspiration to an unbalanced individual.

It's all well and good to talk about moral responsibility and that sort of thing. But the fact of the matter is, that sort of view of society is well...quaint, and has very little bearing on how people ACTUALLY behave.

People don't talk like that anymore, because it's a very parochial way to think.

[AzariLoveIran]

[Alph]

[Milo]

[Alph]

[Demon of Undoing]

Listen, just because I say the guy is a clear nut , it doesn't absolve him of responsibility. The idea that insanity is an automatic out is grossly overstated. As a general rule , he has to have a lack of comprehension of the act. He wrote a note asking forgiveness. Diminished capacity isn't a get out of jail free card. He made choices , premeditated choices. The insanity may mean he had little control of his mind's direction , but he clearly was able to string together willful intent. It's still murder one.

[Marcus]

[Demon of Undoing]

[amos]

Caitie Parker's tweets? Too funny. Read her tweets. She has not seen him or spoken with him since 2007. She apparently missed his American Renaissance period.

[Mr. Perfect]

[thecontributer]

A just dessert for the Left, MrP. They must truly learn the price of their poisonous rhetoric! This retaliation is but a glorious beginning for that!

[Mr. Perfect]

[amos]

[Mr. Perfect]

Well amos, viz second amendment solutions, I still have copies of your death threats to me, is it time to do the responsible thing and forward those to the authorities?

[amos]

[Mr. Perfect]

I suppose next thing Marilyn Manson is responible for Columbine?

[amos]

[Alph]

[Mr. Perfect]

[amos]

[Alph]

Amos,

American Renaissance, East Hampton Bath and Tennis Club. Neither have any Jewish members. One has members who matter politically.

But I'm sure you're right. Clearly, it was the talking about second amendment solutions that lead this young man to attempt the assassination of a gun owning centrist Democrat who runs with gun rights in her platform. Even Geraldo said so. Case closed.

[Mr. Perfect]

No kidding. While you're at it, burn and delete all the Marilyn Manson entertainment products you can find. I understand AC/DC and Judas Priest are particularly dangerous also.

And of course next you will have to cuff leftists who "cultivate" an atmosphere conducive to assassinating Republican Presidents.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojWOWyHWj6M

Right?

I mean it happened before, it could happen again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDIVheB5kIM

[amos]