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Major Earthquake Hits Japan

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Re: More seriously...

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Re: Major Earthquake Hits Japan

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The canary didn't die because this mine is dangerous, it died because it's lazy and wasn't raised with a proper work ethic.
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Re: Major Earthquake Hits Japan

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Re: Major Earthquake Hits Japan

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I have responded to you , in the "Fate of Nuclear Power" thread.
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Re: Major Earthquake Hits Japan

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Re: Major Earthquake Hits Japan

Postby Colonel Sun » Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:38 pm

Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
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1. You're now several kilometres away; and

2. You've got their shoes.
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Re: Major Earthquake Hits Japan

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Re: Major Earthquake Hits Japan

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Re: Major Earthquake Hits Japan

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Re: Major Earthquake Hits Japan

Postby Colonel Sun » Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:55 pm

Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
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1. You're now several kilometres away; and

2. You've got their shoes.
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Re: Major Earthquake Hits Japan

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Re: Major Earthquake Hits Japan

Postby Colonel Sun » Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:31 pm

Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
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1. You're now several kilometres away; and

2. You've got their shoes.
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Re: Major Earthquake Hits Japan

Postby Caskhades » Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:43 pm

To be fair, Col. Sun's point that prior to last Friday, it seemed perfectly reasonable that Nuclear Plants be built to withstand a maximum of a 8M earthquake. I think that (or 8.5?) is standard practice throughout the world, as costs grow exponentially when you move towards and past 9M proofing. After all, 9M earthquake are assumed to be very, very rare. For goodness' sake the WHOLE OF JAPAN MOVED 19 meters or so during this thing!

It makes perfect sense to build nuclear plants on the seashore for easy access to coolant. (even small nuclear plants generate a lot of residual heat, and Fukushima was a BIG nuclear power plant) -- Not clear that Japan's river system could take that sort of load (Endo, can you name any big Japanese rivers? I seem to recall a "this is not a river, but a waterfall" comment re Japan's river system, can't remember who it was)

A few points though -- might it be reasonable in the future to:
a) Build future plants on the West Coast of Japan - would that result in a lesser risk of major tsunami? I think most of Japan's plants are already on that coast.
b) Build +15m reinforced concrete sea-walls around nuclear plants on seashore? Not much use for backup systems if they can be all simultaneously destroyed by a tsunami.
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Re: Major Earthquake Hits Japan

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Re: Major Earthquake Hits Japan

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Re: Major Earthquake Hits Japan

Postby Caskhades » Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:41 pm

30 meters? That's like, what, a ten-story building?

Yeah, that's why I live on the East Coast. I'd rather put up with nice, fresh clam chowder than with 100 foot tsunamis.
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Re: Major Earthquake Hits Japan

Postby Apollonius » Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:45 pm

I can't find the reference right at the moment, but I'm pretty sure that tsunamis have travelled up some of the longer fjords along the B.C. and Alaska coast and telltale markings indicate that on occasion they reached as high as 300 metres (1000 feet).

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Re: Major Earthquake Hits Japan

Postby Torchwood » Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:25 pm

Pessimism is the soft option.
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Re: Major Earthquake Hits Japan

Postby Colonel Sun » Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:32 pm

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Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
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2. You've got their shoes.
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