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Re: Bin Laden Dead?

Postby Mr. Perfect » Tue May 03, 2011 1:10 pm

Obama is now indistinguishable from Rove, Wolfowitz, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Perle, Cheney, etc.

Unilateral go it alone non transparent mission.
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Will Bin Laden win?

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Re: Bin Laden Dead?

Postby Mr. Perfect » Tue May 03, 2011 1:25 pm

You're really out of touch, TARP alone was what it took to spend in Iraq in nearly 5 years, and all STPN to date is up to several times more than all war spending, and everybody knows that spending stimulates. It pays for itself.

As Biden said, we must spend our way out of bankruptcy, and if you realize that the deficit for this year alone is near total war spending since 9-11 you will see that they are trying very, very, very hard to do just that.

STPN baby, get with the program.
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Re: Bin Laden Dead?

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Re: Bin Laden Dead?

Postby Tinker » Tue May 03, 2011 1:52 pm

The canary didn't die because this mine is dangerous, it died because it's lazy and wasn't raised with a proper work ethic.
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Re: Bin Laden Dead?

Postby Mr. Perfect » Tue May 03, 2011 2:04 pm

The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests Patrick Henry

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Re: Bin Laden Dead?

Postby Najar » Tue May 03, 2011 2:44 pm

http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?271654

Indian ex-spook thinks that Pakistanis helped us. He also mentions that Abbotababd is a shia (hazara) town .
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Re: Bin Laden Dead?

Postby rednblacklumberjack » Tue May 03, 2011 4:37 pm

To Mr Perfect and others -

I think its worthwhile pointing out that as wrong as torture is, we used it and it may have helped us win those bin laden fortunes, both his demise and his HDDs. Is it absurd or am I utterly evil to see this pragmatically? If I had to set a standard, is it so wrong to restrict the utmost controversial coercion to leadership like KSM? I'm disturbed by the idea that anyone in the rank-and file of AQ would be subject to the same cruelty - and I'm more thinking that the moral sacrifice to actionable intel ratio may sometimes be compelling.

But the above euphemisms forget one of the most unflinching and powerful messages of the war. As unanimously as one can expect, anyone with a professional military background, the people who've actually had their lives placed in immediate danger by close proximity to the actual subjects of homefront propaganda, each of them condemned torture and were careful to point out there was no practical advantage and this wasn't an issue of differing methodology. It was wrong, they never relied upon it, even as they watched in gruesome detail the deaths of friends, of innocents and more. That's a powerful position.

It reminds me of a restated liberty vs security problem, endorsed by Jesse Ventura and our own Demon of Undoing: It's better to face the terrorists everyday, face to face, wrestling the suicide bombers out of the line, grappling for the trigger, than it is to accept the restriction of liberty. It's not an easy message to receive, let alone stick to in the face of innovations in horror.
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Re: Bin Laden Dead?

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Re: Bin Laden Dead?

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Re: Bin Laden Dead?

Postby Hans Bulvai » Tue May 03, 2011 5:51 pm

Now I'm far from home
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Re: Bin Laden Dead?

Postby Colonel Sun » Tue May 03, 2011 6:08 pm

And now for something completely different . . .

Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
Because

1. You're now several kilometres away; and

2. You've got their shoes.
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Re: Bin Laden Dead?

Postby AzariLoveIran » Tue May 03, 2011 6:19 pm

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Why they need Osama death now !!







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Re: Bin Laden Dead?

Postby Ammianus » Tue May 03, 2011 9:40 pm

What I find most curiously absent from all the coverage is what was the role, if any, OBL played for Al Qaeda in the past 8-10 years while on the run. Clearly he wasn't just hiding in Pakistani Colorado Springs just for retirement's sake.
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Re: Bin Laden Dead?

Postby Mr. Perfect » Tue May 03, 2011 10:34 pm

Even neighborhood kids knew he was there...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... deout.html
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Re: Bin Laden Dead?

Postby Azrael » Tue May 03, 2011 11:08 pm

Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what kills you.
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Re: Bin Laden Dead?

Postby Hans Bulvai » Tue May 03, 2011 11:22 pm

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Re: Bin Laden Dead?

Postby Mattmovies » Wed May 04, 2011 12:18 am

Image

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Osama Bin Laden

Do we finally have a respite from boogey men?
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Re: Bin Laden Dead?

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Re: Bin Laden Dead?

Postby noddy » Wed May 04, 2011 2:02 am

his work is done.

it is hard to imagine how he could have been more successful, one goatf*cker against the entire western world and he managed more political change in 1 year than anyone in history.. from massive big brother systems monitoring our lives .. to groping nuns at the airport.. to sleepy little towns like perth being shutdown for hours because someone forgot their bag at the phone booth.
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Re: Bin Laden Dead?

Postby Azrael » Wed May 04, 2011 2:17 am

Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what kills you.
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Re: Bin Laden Dead?

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Re: Bin Laden Dead?

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