European impotence

[Mr. Perfect]

I don't think you read what you commented on.

[Najar]

[Alexis]

[Najar]

Alexis,
Your link doesnt say Ghadafi kiled thousands - it is about civil war conflict and lots of it are opinions. In war times truth is the first casuality.

Even then , your links states lots of military deaths in Benghazi , which appear to be killings by the rebels.

It would be a tall stretch to call it 'Ghadafi's airforce killing civilians' - as you imply it.

[cincinnatus]

Attack helicopters will have a hell of a lot more to worry about than RGP-7s...



(hell, even SA-7s, 14s, 16s and 18s would cause some loose bowels in the cockpit of most rotary wing aircrews)

[Demon of Undoing]

And let me clarify in regards to targeting , difficulty of.

Coordinating targets for attack choppers is easy on an open plain. In urban settings , with mixed lines , civilian pockets and an inability to identify one Nissan full if idiots from another , it becomes a challenge. US units use dedicated , specially trained combat controllers and they still have the devil's own time killing the right guys/ not killing the wrong ones.

One thing multispectrum war has shown us is that independent units or even unbalanced ones are capable of just so much good. Armor with no infantry is vulnerable , infantry without air is quickly immobilized , and helicopters with no ground guidance is as indiscriminate as you'd like , and excessively vulnerable , to boot.

I'm telling you , there is no solution that is both good for France and so limited as this. You are giving your people impossible parameters.

[Ibrahim]

The interesting thing in all of these conflicts is the impotence of Western military power to influence affairs in "Third World" nations generally. Iraq seems a little quieter lately, ever since withdrawal began to be timetabled, but Gaddafi's defiance in Libya and the looming defeat in Afghanistan is surprising.


If we look at defense spending, some $680 billion for the US and about a third of that for the EU, I think NATO members are getting ripped off. Just speaking as a taxpayer.

[Mr. Perfect]

Boy when you're right you're right.

[Najar]

[Mr. Perfect]

The West is defeating the West.

Not sure the dynamic is to do with looting countries as much as tv cameras, real time fight broadcasts, + the nature of what is trying to be accomplished, etc.

[Ibrahim]

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[Mr. Perfect]

[Ibrahim]

[Demon of Undoing]

If you can , but you won't , can you ?

[Tinker]

[YMix]

Cleanup delivered.

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[Ibrahim]

[YMix]

It was caught in the "great flushing". Please repost.

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[Demon of Undoing]

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