Young Mexican Police Chief may seek US Asylum

[Tinker]

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/2011/030 ... -US-asylum

[Demon of Undoing]

Saw this.

When she was elected , I said nothing out of respect for her courage and not wanting to be cynical , but this is the best outcome for her at this point. She was in no way prepared for this.

[monster_gardener]

Am sympathetic to her.

IMVHO we/U.S. should grant asylum

but............

We better do something effective about this mess soon or we may have millions more asylum seekers than the millions we have already.

Just think what that will to the unemployment rate and cost of social services..........

Not to mention that the violence & corruption won't stay South.

Choices:

A. Close the border tighter than a drum: no drugs/illegals in. No weapons out.

or

B. Legalize/decriminalize marijuana as a start and cut the money off from the cartels. Let employers fire for drug use if they so choose just like now for booze or steroids for baseball players.

Which do you think is more doable...........

I vote for Plan B.

Not that some attempt at A shouldn't be made.

[Tinker]

[Tinker]

Legalization unfortuately is not a solution that will have an impact anymore. These cartels will just get into whatever the next scam is, and they'll start with investment capital. The beast is out and it can't be put back into the box.

Had we legalized Marijuana ten years ago, it probably would have solved it. Now we'll just hear the drumbeat for fewer civil liberties and more spending on defense.

[monster_gardener]

[Demon of Undoing]

[YMix]

Not sure an army colonel would make a good policeman. Different skillsets, as somebody said once. But he would have staying power, yes.

[YMix]

[YMix]

[Demon of Undoing]

There is absolutely , positively nothing unusual about this. This is BAU in WoD procedure.

[skyhook77sfg]

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The Underground Empire: Where Crime And Governments Embrace

This book was recommended to me by a DEA agent. When I opened the cover, I stepped into another world, and when I emerged, I could no longer take seriously such presidential pronouncements to "Just Say No" or "read my lips." Later, I encountered a "friend" who had been in jail with one of the major individuals featured in the book. He told me that the convicted drug dealer had discussed the book and proclaimed that his part of the story had been reported accurately, except for the amount of money he'd been caught with. Evidently, DEA agents turned in $1M of drug money found in his trunk. He said there was at least $3M. Such corruption, I discovered upon reading the book, was more the rule rather than the exception. The book moved me to write my congressman, who admitted he had never even heard of the secret drug enforcement organization detailed in the book. And when Reagan and Ollie North were getting roasted about "guns for hostages," I laughed. If the American people knew about the drug deals our government oversaw (and I'm sure continues to oversee) to prop up "U.S. causes" in other countries, as well as our own, they also would have found the affair amusing. This book opened my eyes and blasted my naivete regarding our government's involvement in the dark underworld of illegal drugs. It will do the same for you.


I have read this book twice. It is an amazing story of high crime. when i lend it it never comes back. The reason it is out of print is , as the book says, 'the names are not changed to protect the guilty' from the CIA to the whitehouse, politicians make conscessions with the bad guys. WAR on drugs? HA........ When the government puts its interests before the people it reads like this book. When criminals can operate with impunity, it reads like this book. Excellent......scary, and REAL


When one reads this book, it is like dropping into the hole of Alice in Wonderland, or falling into one of Carlos Castenada's peyote trances never to come out again. One arrives unprepared at a station in a new dimension of human existence. It is an odyssey "across," "within," "through" and ""around" the world of where drugs, and the drug Kingpins that traffic them, meet with our non-existent "shadow government."

Both are overlapping "nether worlds" that we are told do not exist, but exist they do: as partners in crimes at some place well above our heads. Not only do they exist, but if one can believe the expanded paradigm of the U.S. government put forth by Berkeley Professor, Peter Dale Scott, the drug cartels and those agents and agencies of government that intersect with them -- which promote or passively allow them to ply their trade -- make up the "Sixth Estate" of our government (with the "Press", the mob and other organized crime cartels being the Fourth and the Fifth).

This book is a tale of such staggering proportions that were the facts not all in perfect alignment with the reality we see in the ghettoes where the drug trade is mostly plied, one would believe it to have been invented: made from whole cloth like a fairy tale. However, once the motive of money, unimaginable amounts of money, enters the picture, then our senses begin to tell us that this is not fiction, no fairy tale at all: but the outer limits of what can happen when greed and the pursuit of money are let loose, unbridled, unrestrained to seek its own logical path and endpoint.

[noddy]

one of my friends got busted with something like 5 ounces of green, then faced court to hear the pleasant surprise of "you where caught with 10 grams of an illicit substance"

how many people actually tell the court, nononono bust me harder, i had more than that

[Tinker]

Thanks for the recommendation Skyhook. I just got it for a penny on amazon + $ 3.99 S&H.

[Demon of Undoing]

Drugs are cash cows for governments , retirement programs for connected cops , and the only realistic way to make money in the 'hood. The moral end of it is not taken seriously by anybody but scared suburbanites.

[Tinker]

[cincinnatus]

[skyhook77sfg]

CINCI

A LOT OF STRANGER THAN FICTION EVENTS SEEM TO POP UP IN PANAMA

HAD A DOOZY MYSELF IN THE DARIEN AREA CIRCA 1960.

BUT THIS ONE STILL BOTHERS A LOT OF US...



Colonel Edward P. Cutolo was commanding officer of the US 10th Special Forces (airborne), 1st Special Forces stationed at Fort Devens, Massachusetts. Possessing a distinguished record as a military officer, Cutolo doubtless had seen many peculiar things and undertaken numerous classified missions. Despite this, he would rue the day, in December 1975, he was approached by the CIA's Edwin Wilson and Frank Terpil.

The two CIA officers introduced Cutolo to two highly sensitive missions unlike anything he had undertaken previously. According to his close friends and comrades, Cutolo's later investigation into the legality of these missions would lead to his death under suspicious circumstances. Other senior military officers who investigated Cutolo's death also soon died under questionable circumstances. As we shall see, all were believed to have been murdered by Mike Harari, an alleged Israeli assassin who is known to have headed Mossad Assassination Operations in the early 1970's against the terrorists who massacred athletes at the 1972 Olympics2, and would come to prominence a decade later for his role in the now infamous Contragate affair.

Cutolo begins his sworn affidavit by saying: "In December, 1975, I spoke with Colonel "Bo" Baker concerning a classified mission he commanded during that month, inside Columbia. The mission was known as "Watch Tower." Continuing, he states "Following a lengthy discussion with Col. Baker, I was introduced to Mr. Edwin Wilson and Mr. Frank Terpil. Both Wilson and Terpil were in the employ of the Central Intelligence Agency. Both Wilson and Terpil inquired if I was interested in working for short periods of time in Columbia, and I acknowledged that I was."

Cutolo thereafter commanded the second and third Watch Tower missions. The second mission took place in February 1975 and lasted a total of 22 days. The purpose of the mission was to "establish a series of three electronic beacon towers beginning outside of Bogata, Columbia, and running northeast to the border of Panama." With the beacons in place and activated, aircraft could fix on their signal and fly undetected from Bogata to Panama, landing at Albrook Air Station. All told. 30 "high performance aircraft" flew the covert route to Allbrook.

The aircraft were met by Panama's Colonel Manuel Noriega - who would later become head of state, prior to experiencing a US invasion tasked to arrest and imprison him for laundering drug money. Accompanying Noriega were a number of officers of the Panama Defence Forces (PDF), CIA agent, Edwin Wilson, and Israeli agent Mike Harari. Cutolo adds that Harari had the authority from the "U.S. Army Southern Command in Panama to be in the A.O (Area of Operations)." Nor does Cutolo beat around the bush when explicitly stating "The cargo flown from Columbia into Panama was cocaine."

Cutolo continues his affidavit by outlining the third Watch Tower mission which he commanded. This occurred during March 1976, and lasted 29 days, safely cycling 40 cocaine carrying aircraft through to Panama. On this occasion members of one of his Special Action Teams (SATs), located at Turbo, Columbia were attacked by a large gang of local bandits and were extracted by helicopters that entered Columbian airspace without authority. Cutolo adds that the third mission was "met in the previously related fashion by those named - Noriega, Edwin Wilson, Mike Harari et al.

William Tyree's affidavit dated 6 September 1990, powerfully corroborates Colonel Cutolo's statements. Tyree, however, was able to provide additional direct testimony on the First Watch Tower mission, which he participated in. At that time he was assigned to the 1st/17th Air Cavalry Division located at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. In Tyree's own words, the mission was to "insert three SPECIAL ACTION TEAMS (SATs) inside Columbia. Once the SATs were in place they would activate electronic beacons which aircraft could follow through a specific corridor out of Columbia and into Panama where the aircraft, which were loaded with cocaine, would land at Albrook Air Station." Tyree adds the "mission lasted 24 days and approximately 37 aircraft of various descriptions flew out of Columbia and into Panama, all following the SATs electronic beacons."

Tyree goes on to state "I personally witnessed members of the Panamanian Defence Force (PDF) help unload the bales of cocaine from the aircraft onto the tarmac of Albrook Air Station. Among the PDF officers were Colonel Manuel Noriega, Major Roberto Diaz-Herrera, Major Liz del CID, and Major Ramirez.3 These men were always in the company of an American civilian identified to me by other personnel involved in the operation as Edwin Wilson, of the CIA. Another civilian in the company of Wilson, I have since learned, was Israeli Mossad agent Michael Harari....


....in 1980, Colonel Cutolo died "while on a military exercise in England. Just prior to his death he notified me that he was to meet with Michael Harari, an Israeli Mossad agent. It is my belief, though unsubstantiated, that Harari murdered Col. Cutolo because of the information Col. Cutolo possessed." Neri then reveals that in the event of Cutolo's death, he was to discretely contact Col, Bo Baker. In turn, Col. Baker enlisted the aid of Col. Nick Rowe - all three were Special Forces officers with exemplary records. The three of them thereafter set out to "prove that Harari murdered Col. Cutolo..." Colonel Nick Rowe was killed soon afterwards. On 21 April 1989 he was shot to death by automatic fire from an M-16 assault rifle in Manilla, Phillippines. Neri reveals that "Harari was in the Phillippines for three days just prior to and after Col. Rowe's murder."

Chief Warrant Officer (WCO) Hugh Pearce, who also received a copy of Cutolo's affidavit, also died in June 1989, as a result of a helicopter accident. Pearce had commenced to help the others with their enquiries. Prior to his death he had directed Col. Rowe to an address at Camp Shelby, Mississippi, and state politican, Larkin Smith. Both Col. Rowe and CWO Hugh Pearce died prior to a scheduled meeting with Smith - both having previously agreed to "go public" and call for a "full investigation into the events described in Col. Cutolo's affidavit" following the arranged meeting. Smith, died in August 1989 - in an airplane accident. Others to conveniently die included Colonel Bo Baker and Colonel Robert Bayard - who was murdered in Atlanta, Georgia, in 1977, just prior to his meeting with Israeli Mossad officer David Kimche.



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"Throughout his life, James "Nick" Rowe foretold key personal events, including his own assassination. But not even the prescient Green Beret could have known the impact he would have on soldiers who succeeded him in special operations. Now, more than 11 years after his April 21, 1989, death at the hands of a Philippine communist hit squad, Rowe has become a near-mythic figure who still has a strong influence on Special Forces training."

"Rowe kept his childhood promise. But shortly after his own graduation from West Point, he had an unnerving experience. For three consecutive nights, he dreamed he was captured during a firefight with Viet Cong guerrillas. Two years later, true to his nightmare, the lieutenant was captured during a 1963 firefight while serving as an advisor in Southeast Asia. Rowe spent the next five years in small jungle camps in South Vietnam. "We had every disease vector in the world there," Rowe said in a 1987 interview. "We were on two quart cans of rice per day. We caught snakes and rats every chance we got."

"Rowe was kept in a cage made of slender saplings, measuring 3 feet by 4 feet by 6 feet. He tried to escape three times but was recaptured and punished each time. In 1968, Rowe's captors sentenced him to die. As the Viet Cong escorted Rowe to his execution on New Year's Eve, a flight of American helicopters seemed to appear out of nowhere. Rowe knocked down one of his guards and ran into a clearing, waving his arms. A soldier in a chopper at first thought that Rowe, clad in black pajamas, was an enemy guerrilla and nearly killed him. But Rowe's beard identified him as an American. The chopper scooped him up and whisked him away."" /end/


"The United States Army Special Forces School at Fort Bragg, North Carolina recognized the need for creating the SERE Program. When they started to look for an Officer to design the course and implement it into operation, Nick was everyone's first choice. Rowe was recalled to active duty in 1981 and given the mission to develop and run such a program. His efforts resulted in a program that would leave behind a tremendous legacy at Fort Bragg: a course based on his prisoner-of-war experience. Called SERE - Survival Evasion Resistance Escape - the course today is considered by many as the most important advanced training in the special operations field. Taught at the John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School, SERE trains soldiers to avoid capture, but if caught, to survive and return home with honor. Much of the SERE course is conducted at the Rowe compound.

Nick went from instructor duty to command as a Battalion Commander for the 5th Special Forces Group.

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[cincinnatus]

Didn't realize there was a SERE course at Braggistan. We have McCord AFB, WA for our level 1 and 2 courses. Make sure you're in the circle. And stretch as tall as you can when they line you up after capture so they put you in the higher bamboo cages.

[skyhook77sfg]

ever do a tour at Pope?

still have red spots on my backside from a seven hour sit on hot Pope concrete staging area locked and loaded, in a T10 harness and a 120 lb aviation kit bag between my legs

now that was a memorable day at Pope...

as to SERE...

the originaL was out of Ft Sherman Canal Zone...

spun out of the jungle warfare school.

one of these days I'll put together a story about crossing the isthmus with the ex o of the first seal team helping me carry the deadweight of a JAG captain caspar milquetoast somebody got even with by cutting his orders for a course that would have killed him if the school commandant hadnt scoped out the situation and assigned a couple of babysitters... some funny stuff, especially whena jaguar made the Jag officer take off like a bat out of hell in the middle of the night...and I wound up paddling down the chagres river solo in a dugout and then through the panama canal where a soviet frigate dropped a rope ladder and the capn invited me up for shots of vodka.

yep gotta get that yarn on paper one of these days.

[Demon of Undoing]

I definitely want to see the details on that .

[cincinnatus]

[Demon of Undoing]

Buddy of mine from high school was a P3 Orion sonobuoy monkey , had to go to aircrew survival school in Maine of all places. The course was run by SEALs and rescue swimmer types , and he told us it was much rougher than he anticipated. We told him we could keep him under observation for lobster related PTSD. My brother went to SERE school run by 3rd MARDIV in Okinawa , all instructors Force guys. They got the hell beat out of them.

[skyhook77sfg]

speaking of lobster....

had more than my share back when home was one of the quiet middlemfloridak keys.

but have even higher esteem for stone crab claws

you break one off it grows back good as new...

and that fine almost smokey taste....

yozzaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa