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States declare bankruptcy

Postby AzariLoveIran » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:15 pm

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Re: States declare bankruptcy

Postby Colonel Sun » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:18 pm

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Re: States declare bankruptcy

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Re: States declare bankruptcy

Postby Colonel Sun » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:59 pm

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Re: States declare bankruptcy

Postby Yukon Cornelius » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:09 pm

Isn't Holly shit what passes through Cardinalis cardinalis?
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Re: States declare bankruptcy

Postby Marcus » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:13 pm

A cousin gets a schoolteacher's pension from a Detroit suburb; her husband a police officer's pension from the city of Detroit. Might they be affected?
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...and we don't even have a monarchy!

Postby Yukon Cornelius » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:16 pm

Also, Ibrahim -- check Ritholtz's blog this morning, his word on the pensioners is "royally fucked."
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Re: States declare bankruptcy

Postby Tinker » Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:01 pm

I saw this. I am going to watch it with a very interested eye to see how my friends who got into office with a lot of Union support reconcile these problems.
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Re: States declare bankruptcy

Postby Najar » Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:23 pm

There will be negotiations to cut down the payment , as in any bankruptcy. Since states can legislate rules , they may cut down payment to multiple payment receipts or cap the amount. There are several cases in NY where the state employee retires early takes up another job and collects multiple pensions. There are also cases where cops are allowed to book lots of overtime in their last year to beef-up the pension basis.

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Re: States declare bankruptcy

Postby Colonel Sun » Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:24 pm

What impact will this have on the very large US municipal bond market?
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Re: States declare bankruptcy

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Re: States declare bankruptcy

Postby Tinker » Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:35 pm

Bloomberg is going hard. He says if he doesn't get what he wants he'll lay off thousands of people to make up the shortfalls. He wants to reduce pensions and raise the retirement age.
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Re: States declare bankruptcy

Postby Alph » Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:21 pm

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Re: States declare bankruptcy

Postby Colonel Sun » Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:25 pm

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