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Diegetics • View topic - Romeny is looking Presidential
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Romeny is looking Presidential

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:17 pm
by Ibrahim
Bear in mind that these are only the views of a dirty, moon-worshiping foreigner, but I think Romeny can beat Obama pretty handily, assuming no October surprises and assuming he doesn't get beat up too badly in the primaries. But the GOP is very disciplined in the primaries and I don't really see a viable contender.

As a boring centrist Romeny has the ability to scoop up disillusioned liberals, and this is the key to an easy GOP win. Plus, he could easily get a second term as, unlike Obama, he isn't really claiming to be anything else. Expect his policies to be a continuation of Obama's, just as Obama's are a continuation of Bush II's.

It'll be interesting to see what all the Tea Partiers do when the "Lyin' African" is gone.

Re: Romeny is looking Presidential

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:18 pm
by Ibrahim
Mods: slide this over to American Politics. I am dumb. :|

Re: Romeny is looking Presidential

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:26 pm
by Nonc Hilaire
Do not underestimate the general Christian prejudice against Mormons.
Like most prejudices, it is strongest against those who are close but distinctively different.

Re: Romeny is looking Presidential

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:28 pm
by Tinker
Don't under estimate the Liberal hate for corporate raiders.

Re: Romeny is looking Presidential

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:39 am
by Ibrahim

Re: Romeny is looking Presidential

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:34 am
by Mr. Perfect
It's a tough call. I think it is fair to say that their is pretty strong anti-Mormon feelings on all sides. Obama hate seems to be about the same as Clinton hate back in the early-mid 90's, will be interesting to see. I couldn't possibly predict which one is stronger, mormon hate or Clinton/Obama hate.

Romney can win, but so can Perry. They are competing for the same voters in the primary, leaving R Paul as the real dark horse. If Palin enters the race Ron Paul will win the primary since that bloc will be split 3 ways.

Re: Romeny is looking Presidential

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:36 am
by Mr. Perfect

Re: Romeny is looking Presidential

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:39 pm
by Hoosiernorm
Romeny?

Re: Romeny is looking Presidential

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:37 pm
by Azrael

Re: Romeny is looking Presidential

PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:47 am
by Nonc Hilaire
All we are seeing now is Republican cannibalism.

Everybody is taking turns. Every day one candidate sits in the cast iron pot, and the others stir.

Re: Romeny is looking Presidential

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:09 am
by Mr. Perfect
Refiner's fire baby.

Re: Romeny is looking Presidential

PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:00 pm
by Ibrahim

Re: Romeny is looking Presidential

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 12:37 am
by Tinker
I think people always get this sort of strange fantasy of parties imploding and cannibalizing themselves during primary season. This is what a primary is for, and what a normal primary is like.

Re: Romeny is looking Presidential

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:55 pm
by Ibrahim

Re: Romeny is looking Presidential

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:57 pm
by Tinker

Re: Romeny is looking Presidential

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:01 pm
by Ibrahim

Re: Romeny is looking Presidential

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:16 pm
by Tinker
This is what I chide Mr. Perfect on a lot, looking at localized effects in the media hype. Things haven't crystallized yet, and polls only reflect what the prevailing mood is AT THAT MOMENT.

Hillary Clinton's win was looked at as so inevitable so a Democratic organizer I know wouldn't consider working for Barack because as he put it, "I want to work in New York, and no matter what happens she'll still be the Junior Senator.", he ended up working on the Obama campaign when Obama started proving he had the juice through his incredible social media fundraising. A lot of people do not understand the deep impact Obama's campaign had on Democratic organizing. His campaign had really granular local reach and created institutions where previously there wasn't one. David Axelrod is a fucking genius for that shit.

Re: Romeny is looking Presidential

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:52 pm
by Mr. Perfect

Re: Romeny is looking Presidential

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:10 pm
by Tinker

Re: Romeny is looking Presidential

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:17 pm
by Mr. Perfect
Well no, I know that intellectual and moral bankruptcy runs deep in the Democrat party, and as such many are eager to re-elect the continuer of GWB's foreign policy and are willing to put ideology above failed results of real Obama policy. So in NYC it surprises me not at all that party activists are enthusiastic, for purely partisan reasons.

I mean, I expect Obama to get at least 40% of the vote, that has to come from somewhere.

I thought you had me on ignore.

Re: Romeny is looking Presidential

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:10 pm
by Tinker

Re: Romeny is looking Presidential

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:26 pm
by Mr. Perfect

Re: Romeny is looking Presidential

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:34 pm
by Tinker

Re: Romeny is looking Presidential

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:19 pm
by Mr. Perfect

Re: Romney is looking Presidential

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:42 pm
by NapLajoieonSteroids
This isn't comparable to 2004 but Mitt Romney is the Republican version of John Kerry and will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory barring any greater catastrophic downturns in the economy.