The glory and honor of the Republican Party

[Tinker]

[Mr. Perfect]

[the glowing carp]

[Mr. Perfect]

[Tinker]

[Mr. Perfect]

[Mr. Perfect]

[noddy]

a vaguely defined 2 trillion over 20 years with details to be specified in a law that hasnt yet been passed that becomes effective in a decade.

sounds like australian labour to me.

[Tinker]

Why should I quote Krugman? He's a known crypto-socialist. I am making the Republican arguments. It's your job to make the Democratic arguments.

So both sides consider it a loss? About what's to be expected.

[Mr. Perfect]

[Mr. Perfect]

[Tinker]

A win for Obama isn't necessarily a win for the party, and a win for the party is not necessarily a win for Obama.

Bread and circuses my friend, bread and circuses.

Obama will be re-elected next year for the reasons Glenn Greenwald pointed out.

[Mr. Perfect]

I am as confident in your prediction of Obama winning as I was in your prediction of Hillary winning.

[Tinker]

[noddy]

[the glowing carp]

[noddy]

i will vote for the second time this decade, anyone but labour will be my guiding vision... not looking promising, last time i voted was for john hewson...unf, least ill be on the right side of the scary new tax this time.

as a diversion to our american partisan bickering, ill provide the detail that john hewson was an incredibly stupidly honest politician that offered to drop ALL TAXES for a straight 10% gst and scared the shit out of the australian people and got no votes... the next guy didnt tell anyone, brought in the gst and kept all the existing taxes aswell.

ymix maybe move this partisan bickering to the correct partisan bickering location.

sorry mr p and tinker.

[Mr. Perfect]

[Mr. Perfect]

[noddy]

its the feeling the symbol gives you, we are sending a message to the world that we care!

actually, we do punch above our weight as a carbon producer, highest per capita of anyone!

tiny little population providing an impressive percentange of the worlds mining and food and it wont fix a thing if they buy elsewhere... we arent the ones using it.

[Mr. Perfect]

Feeling good is important.

[noddy]

twitch.

[Mr. Perfect]

At the moment, I can't think of anything that sums up liberalism more than that picture and the context from which it is extracted. It is speaking to me deeply.

[noddy]

yeh well, it is a backlash against over the top suffering for ya own good that the puritanical elements go for.

swings n roundabouts ... hopefully longer term thinking gets trendy again soon enough.

[Mr. Perfect]

My wish is for people that sit on the fence to pick a side and go for it.