Swap Electoral College for Popular Vote

[Tinker]

[Mr. Perfect]

[Colonel Sun]

[Tinker]

I wonder really why people think it is necessary for the votes of people in Wyoming to be worth the value of three votes in New York, California or Texas.

Makes no sense really.

It's not like the choice is between a small town Republican and a big city Democrat. It's between two big city career politicians always.

[crashtech]

[Tinker]

[crashtech]

[Tinker]

[Tinker]

[Tinker]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U. ... population

Check it out, the top 10 most populous states all dominated by their big cities overshadowing the votes of the rural voters in those states.

[Demon of Undoing]

It's pretty simple. Rural to urban demographic trends are pretty solid. Votes happen accordingly. The Rs have generally been dominant and likely will be in party warfare for the next ten years. That stuff depends on having a better machine. The republicans run machines better.

However, the dems can completely nosedive as a machine and there will still be a majority well to the left of the republicans. Some think that means the whole board will still have shifted to the right, therefore " winning " the issue for the right. But what if 60% solidly and continuously back " moderate right" policies that are still anathema to the continuingly diminished traditionalist/ rural core?
It will still look quite a lot like a commie takeover when the Log House republicans and the South Park conservatives and the granola conservatives are dominant.

And they will be.

[Tinker]

[crashtech]

[Tinker]

[monster_gardener]

[Tinker]

Yes they can, but you still get electoral votes based on the Senate, how should those be apportioned?

[Mr. Perfect]

[crashtech]

[Mr. Perfect]

It'll be funny if that catches on.

[crashtech]

I do get a bit passionate about issues that I perceive will weaken my state and strengthen the federal government.

I'm not persuaded that dissolving the Electoral College will not result in that, nor am I convinced the erosion of state power will end there.

[Mr. Perfect]

The EC is not going anywhere. The goal is to get leftists to spend as much time, energy and money of fruitless and impossible causes so they don't do any real damage somewhere else. The EC is one of those causes.

[AzariLoveIran]

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Changes necessary to put our beloved America on the right track for new century, necessitate wide-ranging constitutional changes

The crooks benefiting from present situation, will not let it happen

meaning

you stuck


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[Mr. Perfect]

Azari, we been using EC, hundreds of years, long before Tribe or Woodrow Wilson got ahold of things. Gonna be ok.

Working on structural changes (John Boner Supercomittee) as we speak. Gonna be fine.

Relax.

[Tinker]

[Mr. Perfect]

Well it's normally leftists who bring it up, and when they do I try to help them get it off the ground. So I play the cards as they come out.