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Re: 2012

Postby Colonel Sun » Mon Jul 04, 2011 5:40 am

Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
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2. You've got their shoes.
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Re: 2012

Postby fred » Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:34 am

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Re: 2012

Postby fred » Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:46 am

2012, Republican's take 44 states, 400+ electoral votes, veto proof senate ....

TOBY HARNDEN: Down On The Fourth of July: The United States Of Gloom. “The last comparable Fourth of July was probably in 1980, when there was a recession, skyrocketing petrol prices and an Iranian hostage crisis, with 53 Americans being held in Tehran. . . . Obama’s promise of a national transformation after the Bush years, moreover, means that the thud of coming back down to earth has been that much harder.”

So much for all the hope-and-change talk.

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Re: 2012

Postby fred » Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:51 am

Brits love President Reagan. I guess the Kenyan Impostor has restored America's standing overseas by being such an abject failure.

Ronald Reagan: Britain's finest friend, America's finest president
The Telegraph ^ | 7/4/11 | Daniel Hannan

Ronald Reagan assumes his lapidary place in Grosvenor Square today, alongside Franklin D Roosevelt and Dwight D Eisenhower. All three presidents stood with Britain in war; yet Reagan – the man rather than the statue – towers over the other two.

We in this country have particular reason to be grateful to the Gipper. When General Galtieri attacked the Falkland Islands, he did everything he could to support us short of formally entering into hostilities with Argentina. The United States offered Britain immediate logistical and intelligence support. Caspar Weinberger recalled the president telling him to make available whatever military resources the United Kingdom requested without delay.

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What distinguishes Reagan, though, is not simply his Anglophilia. Every president from Theodore Roosevelt to George W Bush has been, in practical terms, pro-British: Barack Obama is the exception. No, what sets him apart is the magnitude of his achievement. At home, he reversed the disastrous decline of conservatism and began the work of constraining government. Abroad, as the inscription on his statue puts it, he won the Cold War without firing a sho
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Re: 2012

Postby Colonel Sun » Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:25 pm

Last edited by Colonel Sun on Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
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Re: 2012

Postby Colonel Sun » Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:27 pm

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Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
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Re: 2012

Postby fred » Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:35 pm

The size and scope of the disaster the sunbathing Kenyan's communist coup inflicted on America is becoming clearer every day.

TOM BLUMER: Revisionomics: Under Obama, “unexpectedly bad” ends up being “much worse.”

From 2007 to 2010, initial reports from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) told us that the economy lost 4.201 million jobs. BLS revisions have thus far ramped up the number of jobs lost by 2.43 million. The four-year total is now 6.631 million — a stunning 58% increase. As seen above, the bureau’s revisions to the 12 months of the real recession (July 2008 through June 2009) have shot reported job losses up by almost 1.9 million, a jaw-dropping average of 158,000 per month.

They’re not done yet. Every February, BLS performs a comprehensive “benchmark revision.” The next one will affect the period from March 2010 through December 2011. Considering the results of the past four years showing average additional job losses of 415,000, the next benchmark revision seems destined to push the figures even higher.

By contrast, from 2003 to 2006, initial BLS reports told us that the economy added 5.103 million jobs. After all revisions, the four-year total rose by 1.605 million to 6.708 million — a 31% increase. The sum of all benchmark revisions during that time was a positive 675,000.

Why did the revised data largely improve (or at least decline very little) from 2003 through 2006, while decaying horribly since 2007?

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Re: 2012

Postby Colonel Sun » Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:41 pm

Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
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Re: 2012

Postby Demon of Undoing » Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:54 pm

I am not up to defending but a small handful of largely insignificant things that Obama has done, but without a doubt, this crash in jobs over a long term is both overdue and nowhere near done. Obama hardly figures in. This is stuff Perot was talking about. The unemployment is because of noncompetitive structural issues. Call spades as spades if you must, but call all of them.
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Re: 2012

Postby fred » Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:04 pm

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Re: 2012

Postby Demon of Undoing » Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:08 pm

No, actually, that has very little to do with anything in terms of job loss.

Perot. NAFTA/globalization. History, read it.
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Re: 2012

Postby fred » Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:09 pm

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Re: 2012

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Re: 2012

Postby Colonel Sun » Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:15 pm

Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
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Re: 2012

Postby Tinker » Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:32 pm

The canary didn't die because this mine is dangerous, it died because it's lazy and wasn't raised with a proper work ethic.
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Re: 2012

Postby Tinker » Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:36 pm

The canary didn't die because this mine is dangerous, it died because it's lazy and wasn't raised with a proper work ethic.
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Re: 2012

Postby fred » Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:45 pm

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Re: 2012

Postby Colonel Sun » Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:48 pm

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Re: 2012

Postby Tinker » Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:55 pm

The canary didn't die because this mine is dangerous, it died because it's lazy and wasn't raised with a proper work ethic.
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Re: 2012

Postby Demon of Undoing » Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:00 pm

So when you tell me jobs are lost because of subprime, and I tell you this was set up by the leveling forces of globalization , you are just going to abandon your original premise and request that the US make environmental policy that would make Somalia proud?

This is going to take a long time.
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Re: 2012

Postby Tinker » Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:12 pm

The canary didn't die because this mine is dangerous, it died because it's lazy and wasn't raised with a proper work ethic.
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Re: 2012

Postby Colonel Sun » Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:29 pm

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Re: 2012

Postby Tinker » Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:54 pm

That the EPA was started by a Republican makes me giggle.
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Re: 2012

Postby crashtech » Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:27 pm

I love how the new guy speaks of himself in the third person. Precious.
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Re: 2012

Postby Demon of Undoing » Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:42 pm

I hereby compel you all to hear him in your head with the voice of Duff Man.

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