Debt Ceiling Fallout: Obama whacked, GOP firm with Boner

[Mr. Perfect]

GOP has maintained position against Democrats:

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Obama has plunged to record lows.

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The teabagging continues. I was laughing so hard when the MSM pundits were saying Obama was winning leading up to the deal. I was laughing so hard.

[skyhook77sfg]

STILL LAUGHING?



The debt ceiling debate hurt Americans’ view of Republicans, bolstered their opinion of Democrats, and drove the tea party’s favorable ratings to a new low, a poll on Tuesday found.

Just 33 percent of Americans approve of the Republican Party, while 59 percent disapprove in a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Tuesday. That’s a net negative 10-percentage-point shift from less than a month ago, when 41 percent of those surveyed by CNN said they had a favorable view of the GOP while 55 percent had an unfavorable one.

At the same time, Democrats’ numbers have improved slightly, with approval and disapproval each at 47 percent. In July, 45 percent approved and 49 percent disapproved, a net 4-point positive change.

The tea party movement fares slightly worse than the GOP and has its most dismal ratings since CNN began asking about the movement in polls in January 2010. Thirty-one percent said they see it favorably while 51 percent see it unfavorably. In July, those numbers were 37 percent and 47 percent, respectively.

Of those surveyed, just 41 percent say they think the House member in their district should be reelected — the lowest ever — while 49 percent said the member does not deserve another term. A year ago, 52 percent supported reelection of their representatives while 42 percent opposed it.


SHAPING UP NICELY

ALL ACCORDING TO BRILLIANT GOP PLAN EH

STILL PLEASED AS PUNCH?

or maybe more l...ike judy





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[Mr. Perfect]

Laughing like crazy.

Obama at record low:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... -1044.html

GOP doing just fine:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... -2170.html

All good. Skypilot, as one who sees no difference between the parties, why would you really care one way or the other?

[skyhook77sfg]

EVERYBODY LOVES TO SEE A BLOWHARD BAG OF PARTISAN WIND DEFLATED

ITS EVEN FUNNIER THAN BREAKING WIND

and you dont have to crank a window open

[Mr. Perfect]

I don't know, there are no shortage of partisan blowhards around, you only seem to pick on one. I think the conclusions are obvious.

[skyhook77sfg]

yes it is obvious.....

the obnoxious get attention.... swiftly

and without letup until they stop being obnoxious

[Mr. Perfect]

Partisans are often obnoxious to the other side.

[skyhook77sfg]

ocassionally one obnoxious to all is encountered

[Mr. Perfect]

Which is a tacit admission that certain kinds of obnoxious are tolerated.

[skyhook77sfg]

certainly...

the occasional obnoxious post can slip by anyones selfcensor...

but consistently continual obnoxious ....

if you will, "PERFECT" obnoxiousness

that calls for special treatment...

until it ceases.

[Mr. Perfect]

What is obnoxious to one man is freedom fighting to another.

[skyhook77sfg]

whoah there litlle feller......you?.

a freedom fighter?

Ive known freedom fighters in many countries on several continents...

shared my last smoke with them in a monsoon downpours under triple canopy..

carried some out of a mountain redoubt piggyback through countless snow drifts...

exchanged eternal brotherhood vows with men far better than most in their last moments...

men whose regard for freedom far outweighed the value of their own lives....


and to a man they would have scoffed, spit in anyone's face who would claim

some sort of legal mumbo jumbo made a piece of paper a person with human rights.

they all knew the difference between reality and delusion.


freedom fighters fight for human rights....not corporate rights.

[skyhook77sfg]

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[Mr. Perfect]

And I know the founders of this great Republic would have scoffed at your wealth tax ideas. They would have dumped you in the harbor along with the tea.

As for the corporation, the noble corporation, if the founders thought it was that bad they could have outlawed it. They didn't.

As for your freedom fighters who would condemn, to a man, my noble corporation, that doesn't surprise me too much.

But when they came of age to leave their service and enter the private world, the ones that would start a business would all incorporate, and marvel at the great protections afforded them against predatory governments.

All of them. To a man.

[skyhook77sfg]

you flatter your self with what you think you know about those you never knew...

corporate freedom fighter.......hah


hired hack just like GE's jellybean ronald


as to a wealth tax like the Swiss German Austrian...

seems to work somewhat better for an economy

than borrow and spend by reagan, bush, then cheney

to create 2008 economic collapse

than pulling the emergency brake in 2011

to please the koch bros rentacrowd....

[Mr. Perfect]

What I know is that whenever men/women reach a certain level of business wealth (and not much, mind you), they incorporate.

All of them.

There is a reason. It protects us from the government. You would do it too. Yes you would.

As for the rest, congratulations on another perfect recitation of Democrat talking points.

[noddy]

corporate is just another word for collective.

the big ones do have a lot of power and little competition.. why is that i wonders.

how much do you blame the right wing for taking power and the left wing for giving it to them... ask for protection and give someone else authority

[Mr. Perfect]

Corporate is a word that comes from "body". Hence skypilot's preoccupation with "corporate personhood". The ancients thought of them as a sort of body. Go figure.

Rich people have always had influence. Even long before there were corporations. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

[skyhook77sfg]

actually you are right...

did it once upon advice of a lawyer and his accountant sidekick.

wound up floatin in dough...company porsches...limos...box at the opera...company condos...all write offs

and exotic african tribal masks and edo period art bought for hundreds and donated/deducted for many thousands...

did that for a while than gave the business to my employees....

ordered 1500 books from Barnes Noble

all primary sources on how we got here

starting with Breasted's 6 volume opus... Ancient Records of Egypt

moved to a tropical island and started another life

with a totally new attitude...


been there done that is a bit trite

but sure as hell all too true

[noddy]

yeh well - i do have centrist tendancies and do understand the anger and obsession with corporates, i just dont agree with the blame game - it is a messy mix of greedy pigs exploiting power on the right and lack of adult responsibility and demands for comfort from the left.

every time the left creates a new law to protect the poor little stupid me by giving my boss more "responsibility" for my welfare they tell me im a child that cant look after myself and they turn my boss into some sort of elite that is more capable than me...

they also make it harder for a small business to start up because of the levels of capital and legal teams required to survive in this climate... some guy trips over and hurts himself, wins the legal lottery and the small company is screwed

somewhere along the line their is a rational adult space between dickens era and what we have now and i get increasingly cynical about our ability to find it.

[Mr. Perfect]

The refiner's fire purifies all in the end.

Corporations will be there.

[Mr. Perfect]

BTW skypilot, that was some magic corporation you had there. My primary one resulted in 15 years of agonizing toil. Don't hold out, give us your secrets.

[skyhook77sfg]

wasnt magic.

was good at what i did.

number one man in my speciality in the US.

you should understand that.

unless ive misread you.

[Mr. Perfect]

I was obviously number one in the wrong thing! Hats off.

[lzzrdgrrl]