Liberals moving to support MJ illegality

[Mr. Perfect]

It does cause Global Warming after all. Bad pot smokers, bad bad pot smokers. Irresponsible, earth destroying bad bad people. So BAD. Bad people these pot smokers.

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People growing marijuana indoors use 1 percent of the U.S. electricity supply, and they create 17 million metric tons of carbon dioxide every year (not counting the smoke exhaled) according to a report by Evan Mills, an energy analyst at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory.

After medical pot use was made legal in California in 1996, Mills says, per-person residential electricity use in Humboldt County jumped 50 percent compared to other parts of the state.

In order to produce some 17,000 metric tons of marijuana this year, Mills estimates authorized growers will use $5 billion worth of energy. That works out to the output of seven big electric power plants.

Much of the carbon dioxide produced by the industry comes from transportation, though the need for lights “500-times greater than recommended for reading” also uses a lot of power and generates a lot of pollution. Air conditioning, ventilation and humidity control also contribute.

In California, some 400,000 authorized growers use about 3 percent of the state’s electricity for their business.

“This corresponds to the electricity use of 1 million average California homes, greenhouse-gas emissions equal to those from 1 million average cars, and energy expenditures of $3 billion a year,” Mills says. However, since California is such a green state, it only generates 20 percent of national carbon dioxide emissions from pot growing, while using 70 percent of nationwide energy for this industry.

“From the perspective of individual consumers, a single Cannabis cigarette represents 2 pounds of (carbon dioxide) emissions,” Mills says.

For this report, which he published independently, Mills says he didn’t count the energy used in producing fertilizer, water, equipment and building materials also used in indoor pot farms.

Read more: Marijuana causes global warming, uses 1% of U.S. electricity | San Francisco Business Times

[Tinker]

Make it legal and you can grow it outdoors under the Sun.

[Mr. Perfect]

Citation desperately needed.

[Tinker]

[Mr. Perfect]

Well sure. Ever heard of winter? People have green houses all over out here just to grow veggies.

[Tinker]

[Mr. Perfect]

Tinker, it appears your anti-intellectual bug bit you really hard here, you should maybe read the actual article before responding.

After medical pot use was made legal in California in 1996, Mills says, per-person residential electricity use in Humboldt County jumped 50 percent compared to other parts of the state.

In order to produce some 17,000 metric tons of marijuana this year, Mills estimates AUTHORIZED GROWERS will use $5 billion worth of energy. That works out to the output of seven big electric power plants.

[Tinker]

I read that bit. But it can be grown outdoors. It doesn't necessarily need to be grown using grow lights.

[Mr. Perfect]

Ok. It appears you have no idea what you're talking about so I will go with the college graduates who are saying that you potsmokers are ruining the earth and should be jailed. Ruining the earth is bad.

[Tinker]

[Mr. Perfect]

Whatever you say. I'll go with the experts, you can go with your imagination. Earth ruiner.

[Demon of Undoing]

Just so you know , this was a small operation.



I've seen videos from TN state Beverage Control agents ( aka Revenoo'ers) taking down with tobacco knives a field of 100k , 12 ft tall , ten foot -around pot plants , splayed over the entire side of the mountain. The stuff grows like a weed.

Because it's a weed.

[Mr. Perfect]

[Demon of Undoing]

Right , but saying that Humbolt County would become the national norm is like saying that eliminating the speed limit will turn the average Honda into F1 car , and average freeway speeds will be like the Mulsanne straight.

You gotta understand what " Humbolt" means to get why the numbers are absurd. In this issue , they usually are. They have openly , blatantly lied at every step on this issue , from the very beginning.

If they would allow mass outdoor cultivation , the industrial offset would more than make up for any carbon issues.

[Tinker]

[Mr. Perfect]

Well the issue is that clearly, mj like any agriculture, will continue to consume electricity and produce carbon, and when legal the pot smoking will just increase, increasing carbon in the atmosphere. For some reason plenty of people grow it indoors when they have a chance to grow it outdoors, and we're just warming up and destroying the planet as a result.

[Tinker]

[Mr. Perfect]

I certainly cannot rest assured.

You have a big problem on your hands. If you can regulate my tailpipe, other people certainly have the right to regulate your "pipes".

[Tinker]

[Mr. Perfect]

[Tinker]

[Mr. Perfect]

I learned all about it.

More importantly, I learned that certain belief systems believe they can do whatever they want to you in order to save the planet. So bend over and save the planet.

[Hoosiernorm]

First all of the dead young men and now the global warming, man it's getting harder to say that it's a victimless crime.

[Colonel Sun]

Have to wonder how one can estimate the percentage contribution of MJ ops to a conjecture.

Someone has been smoking the MJ.

[Demon of Undoing]

This story is only useful if you wish to deride MMGW and the thought process that would create such an assertion.