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Carter v CIA

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Re: Carter v CIA

Postby Tinker » Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:51 pm

That's a beautiful woman, with beautiful 80s hair.
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Re: Carter v CIA

Postby YMix » Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:39 pm

Holy shit, yeah. She is.

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Still is, apparently.
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Re: Carter v CIA

Postby skyhook77sfg » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:08 pm

not to play big man or as arnold says things of that nature....

but she is the physical double of my better half

who teaches science to underprivelleged kids

and never did addictions

just me instead....

still does ....

after all these years

he says

with arms outstretched

up to the cosmos

in thank you

after thank you.

hallelujah.

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Re: Carter v CIA

Postby Tinker » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:10 pm

The canary didn't die because this mine is dangerous, it died because it's lazy and wasn't raised with a proper work ethic.
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Re: Carter v CIA

Postby CgDs » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:20 pm

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Re: Carter v CIA

Postby skyhook77sfg » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:33 pm

CGD


not always....

fortunately.

btw

you asked for some sources while back

and just ran in to one whose content I certify as accurate

PRELUDE TO TERROR

BY JOSEPH TRENTO


from amazon



Prelude to Terror

reveals the history of a corrupt group of spymasters — led by Ted Shackley — who were fired when Jimmy Carter became president, but who maintained their intelligence portfolio and used it to create a private intelligence network. After this rogue group helped engineer Carter’s defeat in 1980 and allied with George H.W. Bush, these former CIA men planned and conducted what became the Iran-Contra scandal and, through the Saudis, allied the U.S. with extreme elements in Islam. The CIA’s number-one front man, Edwin P. Wilson, was framed by Shackley and his cohorts so that Wilson’s operations could be taken over.

For the first time the story of how CIA director George H. W. Bush was recruited into this network, and brought it into the bosom of the Saudi royal family, is told in detail, as well as how this group’s manipulation of the CIA bureaucracy allowed Osama bin Laden’s fundraising to thrive as al Qaeda flourished under Saudi and CIA protection.

About the Author

Joseph J. Trento has had a long and brilliant career as an internationally known investigative reporter. The stories he has broken include the Justice Department perjury probe into CIA Director Richard Helms after the overthrow of the Chilean government, the case of missing CIA official John Arthur Paisley, the role of intelligence officials profiteering with CIA renegade Edwin Wilson, the first major report showing how the U.S. was secretly arming Iraq and Iran, and he reported on a secret arms deal in 2000 that resulted in the removal of the President of Peru. His books on the intelligence community include Widows and The Secret History of the CIA.
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Re: Carter v CIA

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Re: Carter v CIA

Postby Tinker » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:47 pm

CgDs Not to be rude, but even the most cursory glance at HW's career demonstrates that he was a highly capable individual. Being born to money and privilege doesn't make you automatically an idiot. A smart man born to money and privilege can wield them very effectively.
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Re: Carter v CIA

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Re: Carter v CIA

Postby skyhook77sfg » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:33 pm

ghwb was born into deception and double dealing...

daddy prescott was instrumental in secret deals with Nazi Germany...

would have gone to jail for violating trading with enemy act if not so well connected.

financial laundromat for secret nazi investments was called union bank corporation


see

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/se ... ndworldwar" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; -

son hw was cia asset at time of cia operation zapata

when his zapata offashore co. platforms in caribbean were used as staging areas
for cuban exile invaders...ship supporting operation zapata was named barbara j just like his wife

and of course hw is named as cia agent by warren investigation documents...


second oldest wasp monopoly was cia early days...

opium was the first
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Re: Carter v CIA

Postby Tinker » Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:51 am

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Re: Carter v CIA

Postby Tinker » Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:52 am

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Re: Carter v CIA

Postby skyhook77sfg » Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:28 pm

a little more on how all this worked out


EDDIE'S BURN NOTICE



Shackley, after he left the CIA upon being fired by Turner, was on Clines' payroll as a consultant to Wilson's companies, Systems Services International (SSI), API Distributors, and IRT.

The plan to set up Wilson, in the end, was cooked up by Shackley and Clines, with the Israelis not innocent bystanders. It was leaked to the press that Wilson was a CIA agent and that caused problems for his business interests in Libya, as well as his non-official cover (NOC) status. It was also floated by Shackley that Wilson was involved in the 1976 assassination in Washington of former Salvador Allende Foreign Minister Orlando Letelier.

But Wilson continued to act in his NOC status in Libya. In what was one of the first counter-proliferation operations targeting Libya's acquisition of nuclear material from the French South Pacific nuclear testing program, Wilson provided Langley with details of what Libya was procuring from its supply network, a network that would one day be known as the "A Q Khan" network, the nuclear material smuggling operation run by Pakistan's top nuclear scientist.

With Cappucci and Associates firmly under the control of Shackley and Clines, the firm managed to get the contract to train President Sadat's personal bodyguard. It would be a fateful decision. The Israeli circumvention of the CIA's private network would soon put the Middle East in flames. The CIA had long maintained an association with Iran's Shi'a holy leader, Ayatollah Khomeini. In 1964, after Khomeini was arrested by SAVAK, the CIA arranged for Khomeini to stay at a safe house in the Iraqi Shi'a holy city of Najaf. The CIA's man in Iraq, Saddam Hussein, permitted the CIA to protect Khomeini with a number of CIA Iranian-born security agents. Eventually, Khomeini out stayed his welcome in Iraq and he moved, along with some CIA agents on his personal staff, to a villa outside of Paris.

Khomeini would be grateful to the CIA later.





MUBARAK AND SADATS CONVENIENT DEATH


EATSCO was, meanwhile, shipping arms to the Afghan mujahidin through the cover of its Egyptian business deals. One of the expediters was R. G. Hobelman Shipping Company of Baltimore. With enough baksheesh to go around in Egypt, old Soviet-supplied Egyptian military equipment was being sent to the Afghan mujahidin via Saudi Arabia and Iraq and being replaced with new American military hardware. All of this ultimately implicated, according to Trento, Egyptian Vice President Hosni Mubarak, whose cronies were very involved in the weapons smuggling operation. Mubarak and other top Sadat ministers were CIA assets. The man who managed the CIA's assets in Cairo was William Buckley.

Sadat was growing suspicious of the weapons deals between his vice president and top ministers and the CIA front companies. Sadat may also have had knowledge of the Poet deal between the Reagan campaign and the Iranians. Sadat's people had conducted an audit of the EATSCO/TERSAM contracts and found serious problems with overcharging and unaccounted for money. Sadat's investigation became worrying to Mubarak, Casey, and the entire covert aid network to the Afghans.

On October 6, 1981, while at a military parade, Sadat's CIA-trained security force seemed to step aside as armed military members shot Sadat in his reviewing stand. Mubarak never complained about the CIA-trained security force taking no action to prevent Sadat's assassination.

Trento quotes old General Cappucci as saying that he feared that the Israelis had bugged Wilson's Washington offices for Cappucci and Associates: "It is true. Look . . . Wilson's friends at the CIA were up to their necks with the Israelis -- especially Shackley . . . I had the lace swept repeatedly, and repeatedly bugs would turn up . . . My fear was that the Israelis would get someone in the personal body guard and recruit them to spy on Sadat . . . I never thought they would want to kill him."
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Re: Carter v CIA

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Re: Carter v CIA

Postby Demon of Undoing » Thu May 19, 2011 3:13 am

There is the argument that the War on Drugs continues because the USG may be one of the chief profiteers . If so , it is maybe the most cynical backdoor tax ever enacted . Talk about taxation without representation ...
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Re: Carter v CIA

Postby skyhook77sfg » Thu May 19, 2011 11:21 pm

absolutely...

but to be 100% accurate

suggest stipulating "elements of invisible USG'

instead of USG.

Surgeon General and Sec. HEW probably not participants.

Most players will be found in Langley , Wall Street and the Hamptons.
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Re: Carter v CIA

Postby rednblacklumberjack » Fri May 20, 2011 3:07 am

with a hat to match
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Re: Carter v CIA

Postby skyhook77sfg » Sat May 21, 2011 4:09 pm

dont forget his cohorts Dead Eye Dick, Feld Marschall von Rumsfeld and his cheerleader spawn georgie jr.

make a helluva cartoon series.

or was it one ?
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Re: Carter v CIA

Postby Azrael » Sun May 22, 2011 1:54 am

Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what kills you.
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