Judicial avenues for drug legalization

[Apollonius]

[Apollonius]

[Tinker]

Illegal farms have operated with employees working on hourly wages forever. I knew kids who would disappear to the pot farm in Humboldt during the growing season, apparently it's a pretty chill lifestyle.

But I think it's the risk, basically you're paying for a lot of markup every step of the way. So it's only worthwhile to sell pot if you make a decent profit on it.

I don't think prices would stay the same if they legalized it.

[noddy]

[Tinker]

[Hapax Legomenon]

At what point does the profit cross come to the government cross? That is when it will all be legal in America.

[Mr. Perfect]

[Apollonius]

Yes, and the fight against nonsensical posters also looks frustratingly hopeless.

[Mr. Perfect]

May as well give up then.

[noddy]

firstly you have the massive infrastructure in place that fights the drug war - none of them want to be unemployed and no politician is capable of putting such a large amount of the public service out of a job.

in saying that, CD points out they are being re-purposed for taking out student loan defaulters (!) so chin up... twitch.

however the truth of it is that despite the fact the media and the conversation is dominated by the rabidly pro and rabidly anti stances the "average" parent in the middle is a blurred mix of lots of pro's and con's which to the ultras seems contradictory and hyprocritical but to them seems pragmatic and sensible.

alcohol is "adult only" but not demonised by society, parents dont want their kids to drink, but accept that its availability results in park drunk youngens from time to time..

not an ideal outcome, but acceptable in the big picture.

the thought of their kids having the same access to heavy drugs is unacceptable - yet those same adults dont mind being a bit naughty themselves from time to time in private parties away from the kids with some of these substances....

they know that under the status quo it remains this way - adults can still get at them on the black market and their desire to give their children a cleanstart at life with oppurtunities is maintained.

its pretty hard to come back from being a teenage druggy who didnt get a good education and grounded in healthy living - most of the parents i know that still dabble in drugs make sure it always happens far far away from their kids.

they dont mind if they go there as adults, but only after they have finished school and got the basics of a solid life style sorted.

anyone that wants to legalize needs to first workout how to tackle that reality and it is probably going to involve instant death sentances for drug dealing to children

the "hyprocritical" status quo is not going anywhere - its sensible ;P

[Ibrahim]

A statute will have to be amended for legalization to effectively take place. Prosecutorial discretion is one thing, but ultimately you don`t have legalization untill the statute is amended.

Obviously the hangup here is political and, I think, generational.

[Mr. Perfect]

Couldn't get drugs legalized, and I know why...

[Apollonius]

[Tinker]

[Tinker]

[Mr. Perfect]

Pot is illegal because parents don't want their kids to smoke it, including and perhaps especially parents who smoke pot. It will always be this way.

[Tinker]

[noddy]

id say their is a good chance of them being legalised in a generation or 2 - the parent angle is still strong at the moment.

its becoming irrelevant in australia anyway - so many industries are drug testing now that the official legality is a moot point against starving to death on the streets

this is why i think it will end up legal, it will be very difficult to participate in society and will be more of a side health issue for unemployables, people will be forced to stay off them to keep a job so the policing will not be required.

[Mr. Perfect]

[Tinker]

[Mr. Perfect]

[noddy]

from the deep dark depths of my subconcsious it bubbles up that the war on drugs started when the war on alcohol (prohibition) failed and all that infrastructure and employment had to be pointed somewhere..

the puritan interventionist thing has been strong in america for ages.

[CgDs]

[noddy]

mayhaps - the more popular angle seems to be "no intervention == dont care"

[CgDs]