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well, actually

Postby noddy » Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:25 am

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Re: well, actually

Postby Tinker » Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:37 am

The canary didn't die because this mine is dangerous, it died because it's lazy and wasn't raised with a proper work ethic.
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Re: well, actually

Postby CgDs » Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:44 am

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Re: well, actually

Postby noddy » Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:46 am

i so wanted to say that :P
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Re: well, actually

Postby Tinker » Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:56 am

The canary didn't die because this mine is dangerous, it died because it's lazy and wasn't raised with a proper work ethic.
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Re: well, actually

Postby noddy » Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:11 am

well, actually... i do consider that an accusation of actual brain impairment - an inability to get correct data back out, and as such incorrect in this context.

a better computing analogy, which all of us can accuse each other of, is using the wrong framework and the wrong patterns for the task at hand.

better know as "when all you have is a hammer, everythings a nail."
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Re: well, actually

Postby Tinker » Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:20 am

Yeah, but I've used the hammer/nail analogy many times already. ;)
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Re: well, actually

Postby noddy » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:25 am

re: the done it too much already

their is something in that philosophically for me, a point where "reality" as its established becomes boring and irrelevant and people want/need to hear and see different things about it... this effect is quite profound i believe, part of the reason culture dies.
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Re: well, actually

Postby noddy » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:01 am

The best thing about a boolean is even if you are wrong, you are only off by a bit. (Anonymous)
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Re: well, actually

Postby CgDs » Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:34 pm

Well actually, if it weren't for the C family of languages, would be far less well known. It is not for nothing that nearly all the examples in that wiki article are C-based.

So, well actually, I see little point in accusing Mr. P. of (pbut(hem)) induced logic flaws.
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Re: well, actually

Postby Torchwood » Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:38 pm

Pessimism is the soft option.
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Re: well, actually

Postby Colonel Sun » Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:45 pm

Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
Because

1. You're now several kilometres away; and

2. You've got their shoes.
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Re: well, actually

Postby CgDs » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:57 pm

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Re: well, actually

Postby noddy » Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:40 am

i dont see off by one as being particularly "C" family related, shows up everywhere you have sequences.

my computer history started with apple II peeking and poking, moved onto turbo c (oh the nostaligia) and then i lost interest when school tried to teach me pascal/modula - for some reason that was a very very uninspring and tedious way of interacting with a computer.

got to agree with CD that C# is the best at the moment, part c, part python - which java also tried to do, but failed at (probably due to pascal/ada influences hehehe)

Im a fan of the python because its so fast for getting work done, rather than fast at execution time, unless im on restricted hardware i dont waste much time caring about memory usage or cleverness, its not in my commercial interest :P

C# lets me be "fast at getting the code done" and still gives me the hooks to make the code itself execute faster (if someone wants to pay for it).

if i had time to program for purely my own pleasure, i think id spend more time doing haskell or ocaml - the bit of functional programming ive done made me want to get better at the no side effects, "provable" code approach.


and speaking of getting things done....
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