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The fall of Britain

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Re: The fall of Britain

Postby Tinker » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:23 pm

Probably good for England to be its own entity and not a part of the greater Europe.
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Re: The fall of Britain

Postby Colonel Sun » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:26 pm

Never criticize anyone until you've walked several kilometres in their shoes.
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1. You're now several kilometres away; and

2. You've got their shoes.
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Re: The fall of Britain

Postby Tinker » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:28 pm

The canary didn't die because this mine is dangerous, it died because it's lazy and wasn't raised with a proper work ethic.
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Re: The fall of Britain

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Re: The fall of Britain

Postby Torchwood » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:28 pm

This one I like from the BBC comments page:
"The UK is as isolated as somebody who refused to join the Titanic just before it sailed"

I have never had much time for the Eurosceptic "Little Englanders" - till now. The rest are caving in to Franco-German bullying. The point is that the UK regarded the EU as a necessary evil for economic reasons, but as the Eurozone can look forward to a decade of stagnation at best, and the export markets are in the developing world, let the inward looking Euros go their own way.

The Commonwealth is a nostalgic joke, though, only the Queen is committed to it.
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Re: The fall of Britain

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Re: The fall of Britain

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Re: The fall of Britain

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Re: The fall of Britain

Postby Torchwood » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:09 pm

Well, for a disunited continent Europe didn't do so bad over the centuries. If you didn't like a government or they would not listen, you just moved to the next state. Contrast that with China. Yes, you got wars, but so did China.

Anyway, both wars and global dominance are no longer on the agenda for Europe. The point is that this is another half baked compromise, because it will only work if the ECB becomes a proper central bank with the right for quantitative easing - but the German voter will not stand for that. It will fall apart in due course, or move to a full federal state: the French are queasy about the latter. In a country where opinion polls suggest that 70% want to leave the EU, then there is no way Cameron could sign up to that. Britain has deluded itself for years about being at the "heart of Europe" , it was never going to happen.

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That's a bit melodramatic admittedly, and harks back to when Germany wielded rather stronger weapons than credit...
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Re: The fall of Britain

Postby Demon of Undoing » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:37 pm

I was going to post that, but thought it presumptuous that a colonial might push you into such belligerent art.

Look, give America 20 years to straighten out its own affairs. By that time, we'll be able to help you dig your way out of the Franco-German invasion.

And you're going to want that help. You know why? Two words: escargot sausage.

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Re: The fall of Britain

Postby YMix » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:57 pm

Humanity ought to be the first order of interest for humans.
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Re: The fall of Britain

Postby Demon of Undoing » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:38 pm

Oh, you know they'll get around to it. You'll all be required to figure out how to goose-step while making love with your faces. You'll be compelled to smoke Gauloises and invade Poland yearly.

It's going to be a mess. You are only encouraging it because the Romanian mafia sees a ton of money in the Albanian black market for cheese smuggling. You need new victims now that the stealth Feta pipeline out of Greece is down.

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Re: The fall of Britain

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Re: The fall of Britain

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Humanity ought to be the first order of interest for humans.
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Re: The fall of Britain

Postby Torchwood » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:25 pm

Pessimism is the soft option.
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Re: The fall of Britain

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Re: The fall of Britain

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Re: The fall of Britain

Postby crashtech » Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:23 am

I thought the Eurozone was in a lot more trouble than the UK. Time will tell.
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Re: The fall of Britain

Postby Nonc Hilaire » Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:38 am

The Brits were offered free tickets on the Titanic and they are simply refusing to go.
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Re: The fall of Britain

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Re: The fall of Britain

Postby Torchwood » Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:39 pm



It does not have to do with mourning for empire, as the author claims, but it does have to do with a different vision. This was going to happen sooner or later.

Still, London feels a lot more global than inward looking Paris and even Berlin.

Also the Germans might miss the UK as counterweight to France, but Germany is in a "do as you are told" mood at present.
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Re: The fall of Britain

Postby Tinker » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:00 pm

Sounds to me like a decision that will lead to prosperity for Britain.
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