STPN bubble popping?

[AzariLoveIran]

[skyhook77sfg]

parasites abound...e

long ago someone said:



"Speculation is only a word hiding the making of money out of the manipulation of prices, instead of supplying goods and services."

H. Ford


and the parasites's worst trading trick ..naked short selling....not mentioned by our resident speculator is essentially selling something that doesnt exist...

license to counterfeit securities in unlimited amounts.... a con man swindle duly pronounced kosher by non regulating regulators drawn from the Wall St criminal class....

recall Madoff's $50 BILLION scam was repeatedly reported to SEC by analyst Harry Markopolos ..ZERO INVESTIGATION/ENFORCEMENT

BUT THEN SEC CHAIRMAN RETIRED WITH $100 MILLION BONUS

or was it more?

PARASITES ALL


if you want to have your hair stand on end check out the current casino rules on naked shorts:


http://www.counterfeitingstock.com/Coun ... Stock.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Colonel Sun]

Shorting a stock is often vilified, and even portrayed as somehow being un American,
yet the vast majority of financial scams involve management running up the stock price by cooking the books and
then exercising their stock options.

Those who short have to do their homework with regards to the financial health of the target company given the potential losses.
One of the best signals that management is not straight is to hear them complain about shorts targeting their company and blame the shorts for any drop in the share price.
Shorts often shine sunlight on facts that managements would like to have kept hidden.

Shorting, in fact, provides support to the market during periods of decline as the shorter buys the stock at a lower price to cover the short.

I'm not very interested in debating the morality of an activity that is both legal and useful. Far more interested in learning about the mechanics.

So-called naked shorting is another issue.

[skyhook77sfg]

yes ....short selling vs naked short selling

is like the difference between a horse and horse thief...


my post was about the latter in case that wasnt clear

[Colonel Sun]

[Mr. Perfect]

[Mr. Perfect]

[skyhook77sfg]

[Mr. Perfect]

Naked short selling is a complete red herring.

[AzariLoveIran]

[Mr. Perfect]

Answer is simple, your stock should not be locked up after IPO.

Also, why tax trading at 6 months and not 7 or 5? You are picking a number out of the air, not based on sound reasoning. Take "traders" out of the market, take options out, half of liquidity and capital will disappear, economic collapse.

Az, I have started a number of companies, partnered, raised capital investments, sold out, fell into trading sort of on accident, found it fascinating, learned everything about it. My trading knowledge puts me in the top 1% of the population, maybe tenth of 1%. As far as knowing what it is worth knowing. Lots of people know lots of things that are not worth knowing. Met lots of them, they sell insurance now. But as for businessman, privately held shares, none of this matters. I agree you should have no restriction when IPO (have never taken my own business public), you should go after that restriction rather than destroy the whole economy going after traders. You lock people in for 6 months nobody will risk capital in the market. Very few. Huge economic contraction. All for nothing. IPO effects 1% of the market at any given time. Don't burn down the forest to save one baby chipmunk, please. All the other chipmunks will die.

"Traders" do not cause volatility, uncertainty does, uncertainty of earnings, risk associated with that. Lots of stocks with low volatility, why is that? Why do traders not terrorize those businesses? It is because they are low uncertainy businesses. The root cause is risk, not terrorist traders. High PE multiple puts pressure on share price, not traders. Stock can double in value, one trade from an "investor". Stocks can move 15% on one trade (called "gaps"), move .001% on millions share traded. Which one was an investor, which one a "trader"? Doesn't matter.

Options are the motor oil to the engine of capitalism, keep things liquid and smooth. You should sell puts to buy stocks, and sell calls to sell stocks, make extra money just sitting on the table. People want to buy and sell options, leverage and insurance vehicles, everybody happy. No real problem, other than over-leverage and bad underwriting, but that is not unique to options. Democrat government programs far more harmful to economy than options. Democrats say waste=demand (Keynes). Crazy stuff.

Options are good.

[AzariLoveIran]

[Mr. Perfect]

[Colonel Sun]

[Colonel Sun]

[Colonel Sun]

Sumimasen.



Bump.

[Mr. Perfect]

[Demon of Undoing]

I understand the talk on nuclear physics easier than I understand this.

[Mr. Perfect]

Bubble's popping baby!

http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickc ... ow=&time=3

[rednblacklumberjack]

[Colonel Sun]

[jerryberry]

Mr P., I think you said October was traditionally the most volatile month for the VIX. Any reason why? I can't remember if there was a reason. I'm re-reading these comments because this stuff is so darn confusing. I'm trying.

[Mr. Perfect]

I don't know if I said that, but the urban legends sort of point to that. What I heard is that a lot of window dressing goes on in the big funds during that month for tax and disclosure purposes. Have never looked into it too much, never found it valuable in terms of trading, other than I am much more cautious in October.

[Colonel Sun]

[Colonel Sun]

Deprecated. Replied to previous, not most recent post.