The Iran Thread

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Azari, I truly wish you, and all Iranians all the best. It is a wonderful development to see more and more Iranians minding their own business, opposing all that are in their way. The USA is on the way out of the region and I can't see it step back in any time soon. This is a wonderful opportunity for the Iranians to make a lil' cosey fire in their very own fire place, be with friends and enjoy life.

Israelis and Palestinians also desperately need the same cosey thing. Now if we all go home and truly mind our own business, they also have a chance to together come to that point. Your public whore maiden Achmadinejad does not understand this yet. But he is not the only one; most people also in the West naively believe somebody ought to interfere. This is a big mistake. There should be more proud Azari Iranians like you who don't give a shit about the rest of the world really, and with head high choose to mind their own worthy business on their private square meters.

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Rhapsody ,

My fault .. I did not explain well ..

You misunderstood ..


Nationhood .. national borders .. things of that nature .. did not exist before colonialism.

Colonial forces, Brits, invented nationhood and national borders .. to divide and rule.

Same people last 5000 yrs, suddenly found themselves on opposite side of a line (called national border), fighting each other since, not knowing WHY ?

Iran is not into conquering others .. same as Germans are not into conquering France or Eastern Europe or even Russia (anymore)

The old good days of conquering Attila the Hun style are gone .. not military power (or subversion) is the binding glue but winning hearts and minds. That's why America finds itself in present predicament.


This, just for the record ..


I knew what you were getting at .. America preaching to Arabs Iran wanting to rule ME .. nothing further from truth .. is Germany ruling Europe ? .. in final analysis, the heart of the new ME will be Iran and Iranian civilization .. nobody can stop it .. could anybody stop Germany be hearth of Europe (in all domain) ? .. Iran for new ME is much more than Germany is for EU ..

Detail comment to your comprehensive post follows ..


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I don't think there is much to really debate about Iranian history. Pre-Islamic Iran was one of the greatest civilizations of the ancient world, and it aged and declined until it fell, much like their Western equivalents, the Romans. But there is no denying their apogee.

Islamic Iran during the medieval era was also a cultural wellspring, only now their ancient culture melded with then-upstart Islamic civilization to form one of the leading artistic, literary, and mathematical cultures of the age.

This medieval high culture stagnated while Europe had its industrial revolution and tried to conquer the rest of the world, and Iran left that era as something of a backwater, until oil was found. Then it became a modernizing backwater, until...

Iran was saddled with a corrupt dictatorship (like Iraq) and the turned from that to an initially promising but quickly disappointing revolutionary government, which is sunk into theocratic tyranny today, and is waiting to either collapse or be collapsed. There is no talk of the regime persisting in the long term, and nobody but the leadership of the current regime are happy with the status quo, so all debate is about how/when it will be ended.

What else is really to be said about Iran's history vis. "the West?"

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