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Re: France bans public prayer

by Tinker » Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:28 pm

It all comes down to what people believe and how they want to organize around it. Sex in public is only an imposition because we have formulated our civil society based around mores that view it as such. It is wrong only because you believe it is wrong. It is an imposition only to the degree you personally are jealous/disgusted by it. Why should other people be held hostage to your inner emotional state?

The canary didn't die because this mine is dangerous, it died because it's lazy and wasn't raised with a proper work ethic.

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Re: France bans public prayer

by Ibrahim » Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:22 pm

Not clear on the origin of the public sex hijack, but public prayer is pants-on, so should be even easier to defend under either constitutional or basic human rights.

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Re: France bans public prayer

by Tinker » Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:02 am

The canary didn't die because this mine is dangerous, it died because it's lazy and wasn't raised with a proper work ethic.

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Re: France bans public prayer

by Endovelico » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:46 am

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Re: France bans public prayer

by Ibrahim » Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:24 pm

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Re: France bans public prayer

by AzariLoveIran » Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:09 pm

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Re: France bans public prayer

by Endovelico » Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:22 pm

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Re: France bans public prayer

by Tinker » Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:50 pm

The canary didn't die because this mine is dangerous, it died because it's lazy and wasn't raised with a proper work ethic.

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Re: France bans public prayer

by AzariLoveIran » Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:57 pm

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Re: France bans public prayer

by Ibrahim » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:47 am

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Re: France bans public prayer

by Ibrahim » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:57 am

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Re: France bans public prayer

by Tinker » Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:23 pm

The canary didn't die because this mine is dangerous, it died because it's lazy and wasn't raised with a proper work ethic.

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Re: France bans public prayer

by Tinker » Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:30 pm

The canary didn't die because this mine is dangerous, it died because it's lazy and wasn't raised with a proper work ethic.

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Re: France bans public prayer

by Ibrahim » Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:15 pm

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Re: France bans public prayer

by Tinker » Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:28 pm

The canary didn't die because this mine is dangerous, it died because it's lazy and wasn't raised with a proper work ethic.

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Re: France bans public prayer

by Ibrahim » Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:32 pm

Maybe we aren't disagreeing. I would describe the sexual metaphor as even more abstract than you do here, but its not worth splitting hairs over.

You've probably heard the French description for an orgasm as "le petit mort." It would say that Rumi's imagery has as much to do with real sex as an orgasm does to do with death.